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[SPOILERS - PBEM17] novice and spaceman - Suryavarman of India

spacemanmf Wrote:Yeah feel free to draft something.

Wouldn't we need Nationalism first? wink

Okay... How about:

Quote:Shoot the Moon,

We notice you've researched some impressive military techs and that your power is increasing steadily. Is there any reason for us to be alarmed? We hope you agree that neither of us are amongst the current favourites in this game and that conflict between us would be inconclusive and mutually detrimental.

Sincerely,
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Shoot the Moon's latest techs were Polytheism and Civil Service.
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novice Wrote:Wouldn't we need Nationalism first? wink

Badum tish.

I like the innocence of your message, so feel free to send. We can use "Your roading & forting is not exactly subtle, is it?" and "Attack us now and we'll soon be raining rifles on yo' ass" another day...
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spacemanmf Wrote:I like the innocence of your message, so feel free to send. We can use "Your roading & forting is not exactly subtle, is it?" and "Attack us now and we'll soon be raining rifles on yo' ass" another day...

Okay, message sent, titled "Cause for concern?".
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This is why it is confusing for us.

PBEM13/17 spoiler
[INDENT][/INDENT]PBEM13 PBEM17

'Henge/Oracle Yes No
Pyramids No Yes
Great LH Yes Yes
Colossus Yes No
Most wonders Yes No

Map size Large Standard
Diplo In-game No limits
World wrap Cylindrical Toroidal
Game speed Normal Quick
Traits FIN/IND EXP/CRE

Theology Yes No
Banking/Econ No Yes
Drama/Music Yes No

Etc

Damn formatting.
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Shows we've done a good job playing a different game this time around.
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novice Wrote:Shows we've done a good job playing a different game this time around.

Yeah. Doesn't make it easier to play.
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You mentioned Notre Dame in chat, which requires Engineering. (Why did I think it required Music?) Will our GE build it from scratch? I presume so, since I can normally rush-build the Taj Mahal and that takes more hammers.

Where does Engineering fit into our tech path again?
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This from rego made me jump momentarily:

Quote:Hi guys,

As you'll see when you get the turn around, we have declared war on you.


Errr..... what I meant to say is that you will see that we got a great prophet :-). Fairly low odds but there we go. I seem to remember you saying you might be interested in purchasing a prophet from us should we get one. I don't know that we went in to specifics or anything, and of course we do have the option of using that for our own (secondary) shrine, but if you're still interested, we're open for offers

Let me know

dan.
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And chat with rego:

17:26 Dan: hey there

me: hi

got your email

mild panic

then eased

Dan: lol

just trying to spice things up for you

me: yeah

don't need that

:-)

Dan: "wait, what? i thought we had a nap? no!!!"

me: bingo

we're expecting shoot to come after us as it is

17:27 do you have an NAP with him?

Dan: i think we have a similar one like we have with you

me: ok

Dan: indefinite with short cooldown

me: we have 7t cooldown with him

but he his roading & forting his arm

building jans

17:28 Dan: ok

mixin it up ;-)

the jungle arm or the other one

me: jungle arm

towards "hostile takeover"

but it could conceivably be a bluff and he might be heading for you, i guess

17:29 i doubt it - i suspect he wants his arm back

Dan: yeah

sod arrell mentioned that he had seena n "extra" iron somewhere?

17:30 me: yeah dave popped one on an island

which is being shipped to shoot

it was an island we were going to settle before kyan warned us off

17:31 Dan: ah i see it

that's a pretty slick city he's got there

17:32 me: two food + iron?

for this map i guess it is

Dan: yeah

me: given how much we are all packing them in

Dan: well it has moai + GA

me: aha

Dan: so i'm just impressed at all the 2/2/4 tiles

i guess

me: heh

17:33 Dan: so are you still interested in the GP?

17:34 me: we'll need to crunch some numbers (plus i need to check with novice anyway)

17:35 Dan: so shall i say "tentative interest"?

me: in your thread?

sure

17:36 what would you be thinking about in terms of payment?

Dan: not sure

me: at this stage, i guess it would take a while to pay back

even with 100% boost

17:37 as in, the shrine is a medium to long term investment and i'm not sure we have the time given shoot's trigger finger

17:38 Dan: sure

congrats on the GM from econ btw

me: heh thanks

Dan: i'm glad you got that soon as we were just about to have to start trying for it

me: fairly inevitable

we were just beelining free market...

17:40 Dan: :-)

well i saw you guys had the prereqs for it

so i gave it up

but you kept delaying and delaying

me: well there was no rush

17:41 loosely speaking

Dan: right with alpha you could see if anyone was close

me: yeah

Anything we could offer for a GP. I'm not that convinced a GP is that good now. It would ultimately be about 40 gpt, I guess, so it would take approximately 25 turns to match the GM trade mission. And a GE has less value to rego.
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spacemanmf Wrote:Anything we could offer for a GP. I'm not that convinced a GP is that good now. It would ultimately be about 40 gpt, I guess, so it would take approximately 25 turns to match the GM trade mission. And a GE has less value to rego.

Yeah I don't know. I guess a GP is slightly better than a GE for us at the moment, if Rego would be willing to do that trade? Although you're right that the shrine is a long term investment. And we might want to think short term.

If I was Rego though I wouldn't bother with that trade and I think it's what we're prepared to offer? Or maybe we could offer him a fixed percentage of our shrine income, as a gpt deal?

Notre Dame would be somewhat useful and requires Engineering. Engineering might not be our top priority, but we will want it medium term as it's a prerequisite for chemistry which leads to frigates and scientific method.

Settling the GE in Capital and saving it for a golden age or a later wonder are also valid options.
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