November 28th, 2012, 08:00
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Pindicator (3) - Azza Jkaen Lewwyn
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November 28th, 2012, 08:22
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I scanned you (Lewwyn) because you were one of the possible double voters, and probably the strongest and most dangerous of the four. I also thought that I'd be able to convince others to my view that Qg was scum without needing to scan him, but turned out I was wrong on both counts there.
I scanned Rowain because he was name claiming so I thought he might've had a role.
Thinking back, I didn't really have much of a reason for the Jkaen scan. I think because he was quite prominent on day 3, especially compared to his first two days, he stuck out in my mind.
Day 4 made me reconsider my ability to actually construct a convincing argument as to why Qg was scum, so I scanned him that night in the hope that it'd give some sort of smoking gun that'd prove him to be scum, so I could finally get my man. Of course, he ended up being the doctor, which killed that right off.
November 28th, 2012, 08:34
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(November 28th, 2012, 08:22)Azza Wrote: I scanned you (Lewwyn) because you were one of the possible double voters, and probably the strongest and most dangerous of the four. I also thought that I'd be able to convince others to my view that Qg was scum without needing to scan him, but turned out I was wrong on both counts there.
I scanned Rowain because he was name claiming so I thought he might've had a role.
Thinking back, I didn't really have much of a reason for the Jkaen scan. I think because he was quite prominent on day 3, especially compared to his first two days, he stuck out in my mind.
Day 4 made me reconsider my ability to actually construct a convincing argument as to why Qg was scum, so I scanned him that night in the hope that it'd give some sort of smoking gun that'd prove him to be scum, so I could finally get my man. Of course, he ended up being the doctor, which killed that right off.
That's a really good answer and better than the reasoning I came up with for you.
I went back and read more of Azza's posts and they have reaffirmed my belief in his innocence. I'm locked in on Pindicator now.
Funny thing about Pindi, he loses no matter if he's scum or village once we lynch him. 
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
November 28th, 2012, 10:42
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Lewwyn, has does TT's day 1 self-defense vote onto me make sense if I am a wolf?
You're right that I haven't had a case. Because I haven't known which case to make. Why the fuck do you think I was asking "what do you think?" last night. Because I didn't want to be caught flat footed in this situation -- well, guess what. Mr. Tin Foil Hat Lewwyn decided that he had it all figured out, and now he's got his targeting locked in. I've seen what happens when people get in Lewwyn's sights: he doesn't let up, whether he's right or wrong.
So what did I do today? I asked you quesitons back to your first accusation, asked for Azza's role reveal result (hoping he'd try something like making up a role), then self-voted and voted no-lynch. I've been trying to make noise to see what the reactions were so I could make an estimate. Here's what I've seen:
Lewwyn: locked in, but looking at other possibilities. Noteworthy that he hasn't looked at jkaen. I think if he was scum he would have looked at jkaen in order to be complete. Likely this is village Lewwyn.
Jkaen: Looked hard at other targets, and smartly didn't discount the No Lynch vote. The No Lynch was basically my safety valve against lewwyn being the last scum, as if he didn't die then that would be suspicious. But I think you're right jkaen: you will be the one night killed and you're the one I have most faith in as a villager now.
Azza: stayed on pin.
Azza gets my vote for not wanting to look at other targets today.
You should trust your gut jkaen. Occom's razor says it's stupid for me to boat my whole team -- for instance, why would they even go along with it? Second, wouldn't they want to attack me back so if I fail there's a chance they gain cred?
Well, I guess we technically aren't in Lylo. After you lynch me it's a 50/50 flip. So let's not do a no lynch after all.
November 28th, 2012, 10:49
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I think there's a low chance that Lewwyn is the last wolf, but really if he is then he's played this masterfully and there's no way we're going to win. Low because
Note this Lewwyn: you say I am wily enough that jkaen shouldn't trust his gut, but apparently so clumsy that I'm the one making all the noise about Tasunke and Mardoc possibly being innocent. Contradiction much? In love with your own theory a bit?
Zak told me in my first game that you could be scum's best friend when you're village. Because once you lock on you get tunnel vision, and sometimes scum just needs to stay out of the way. Well I still think Azza's the last scum. But you're definitely scum MVP so far
November 28th, 2012, 10:52
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Dangit, forgot to finisht that first paragraph. "Low because..."
Low because you've done a lot of pro village things, because Serdoa was happy to have you ahead of coco day 2. But as soon as coco passed you he pushed mattimeo hard.
No, it's gotta be Azza. Should have trusted my gut when I thought Azza's end of day 1 post was reading off a cheat sheet.
Okay, this is good. I know who I have to convince. Definitely jkaen & lewwyn as villagers. It just happens to be Lewwyn with his sights locked in on me. Well, if I want to win this for the village I guess it's gotta be the hard way
November 28th, 2012, 10:58
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I seriously do not understand how you people can keep saying there's a chance I'm scum. I mean either you believe Azza when he says I'm a vigilante or you believe he's lying in which case we're both scum in which case the game is over. And how do you explain two kills? When I specifically told you who I was going to kill? It doesn't make any sense at all. There is 0% chance I'm scum and it's driving me crazy for you guys to keep bringing it up as though its a viable possibilty. All I see is scum throwing dirt.
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November 28th, 2012, 11:01
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(November 28th, 2012, 10:52)pindicator Wrote: Dangit, forgot to finisht that first paragraph. "Low because..."
Low because you've done a lot of pro village things, because Serdoa was happy to have you ahead of coco day 2. But as soon as coco passed you he pushed mattimeo hard.
No, it's gotta be Azza. Should have trusted my gut when I thought Azza's end of day 1 post was reading off a cheat sheet.
Okay, this is good. I know who I have to convince. Definitely jkaen & lewwyn as villagers. It just happens to be Lewwyn with his sights locked in on me. Well, if I want to win this for the village I guess it's gotta be the hard way
I spent the whole day looking at Azza. The only thing I thought out of place was his choice of scans, and I think his answer is good.
Honest question Pindi. DO you think its possible that scum targeted Rowain Night 3.
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November 28th, 2012, 11:02
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Okay, we'll start with a meta question before I step out for work. I think you've already considered it, but I'll ask it anyway:
Doesn't the rolescanner make more sense as a scum role to find the bulletproof SK? The village doesn't care if he's bulletproof or not, they just lynch to get rid of scum. But the traitor team would want to know that they can't target him at night.
November 28th, 2012, 11:06
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What's a pimp do? Could Zak have stopped the scum kill on Night 3?
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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