[Lurkers] Putting the Old Fogeys into a List

[Miguelito]

Only now I noticed that Bob's dot also means he can't settle copper 1st ring if not on the cow. Well at least he has cheap monuments?

[civac2]

My impression is that the main problem of monuments is the 10 turn delay not the cost.

[Miguelito]

Sure the 10 turns are awful and everybody hates monuments, but at 15h you can at least limit it to that with a single chop. With full cost, you either have to set up 2 chops, which comes at a big cost for a third city, or delay it 3-5 further turns in which the city is only working for that, not growing (if it grows on the rice then whips the growth is lost to the monument)

[Thoth]

Bob will have the copper once his capital pops 3rd ring on t51. It's risky to leave copper that long in MP, but he won't need to build a monument to get it (and I don't think he can get it any faster given his 2nd city location).

[pindicator]

Yeah, even his religion plan wouldn't have gotten copper before the capital pops its borders. Or very close to it

[Commodore]

So on the one hand, NoGas were more aggressive there than I would have been. Scouts can actually be peace-enhancing, showing a lack of rush for instance.

But tilting your entire game into Eternal War over a popped scout also seems...a touch immoderate.

[mackoti]

So on the one hand, NoGas were more aggressive there than I would have been. Scouts can actually be peace-enhancing, showing a lack of rush for instance.

But tilting your entire game into Eternal War over a popped scout also seems...a touch immoderate.

I think that poping should be punished. I totaly agree with serdoa , this was totaly unnecesary. But in some turns if prospects for winning are beeter for serdoa he will forget that otherwise still has a thing to play for...

[El Grillo]

I'd love it if superdeath successfully builds his way out of the opening peacefully while Serdoa is throwing the classical kitchen sink at Noble & Co.

[pindicator]

Ok, I would love that too

[Thoth]

Did CtH change the number of water tiles needed to activate the circumnavigation bonus? It doesn't look like there is enough water on the map for BTS circumnavigation bonus.