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[SPOILER]PB58 - Mr. Cairo residing over the remains of Serdoas Library of Knowledge

No. of cities maintenance:

Cost = B(p) * n / 2

where

n = number of cities you own
B(p) = is a value according to your pop (in the city you want to know the maintenance for) and this table

Pop - B
1 - 0.6
2 - 0.62
3 - 0.66
4 - 0.68
5 - 0.72
6 - 0.76
7 - 0.78
8 - 0.82
9 - 0.86
10 - 0.9
11 - 0.92
12 - 0.96
13 - 0.98
14 - 1.02
15 - 1.06

For a map sized Standard and Monarch difficulty you have to multiply the value by 0.85. I assume it will be +-0.05 per difficulty level above or below Monarch. 

Distance maintenance:

dist.maintenance = (7 + p) * (d * 0.29) / 8

where

p = population in the city you look at
d = distance to a city with a palace(-like building)

Distance is measured 1 per tile for horizontal or vertical movement and 1.5 for diagonal movement. The tile of the palace-city does not count, the tile of the city you want to know the maintenance of does.

For a map sized Standard and Monarch difficulty you have to multiply the value by 0.8. 

And as always all numbers are rounded down, in the case of distance maintenance it seems to the second decimal. No. of cities maintenance is rounded to the second decimal but then rounded to the nearest 0.05 multiple (sorry I have no clue how to describe that in English). Basically you calculate the value, divide it by 5 and round it to the second decimal than multiply it by 5. 

Example:

Rosseau is a city with 3 pop that is 4 distance from the capital. In total I have 8 cities

No. of cities maintenance (NM) = FLOOR(B(p) * n / 2 * 0.85 / 5;2) * 5
NM = FLOOR(0.66 * 8 / 2 * 0.85 / 5;2) * 5
NM = FLOOR(5.28 / 2 * 0.85 / 5;2) * 5
NM = FLOOR(2.64 * 0.85 / 5;2) * 5
NM = FLOOR(2.244 / 5;2) * 5
NM = FLOOR(0.4488;2) * 5
NM = 0.44 * 5
NM = 2.20

Distance Maintenance (DM) = (7 + p) * (d * 0.29) / 8 * 0.8
DM = (7+3) * (4 * 0.29) / 8 * 0.8
DM = 10 * (4 * 0.29) / 8 * 0.8
DM = 10 * 1.16 / 8 * 0.8
DM = 11.6 / 8 * 0.8
DM = 1.45 * 0.8
DM = 1.16
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(January 28th, 2021, 12:31)Serdoa Wrote:
(January 28th, 2021, 12:24)Charriu Wrote: Yes islands get +100% trade yield for every trade routes to and from them

And every one of my cities on the mainland can have a trade route to the same island-city, yes?

Correct. You can have infinite domestic trade routes to one of your cities. The foreign trade routes on the other hand are limited to one trade route for every single foreign city
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You are or can read German, Serdoa, right?

https://www.civforum.de/showthread.php?8...e-BTS-3-19
https://www.civforum.de/showthread.php?8...t-BTS-3-19

These are correct.
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DistanceMaintenance=
250 x Distance x (CityPop + 7) x WorldSize_M/100 x Handicap_M/100 / MaxPlotDistance


WorldSize_M is 80 for Standard size maps and +10/-10 for each step above resp. below (so 100 for Huge),
Handicap_M is 90 for Monarch,
MaxPlotDistance is the maximum distance over all pairs of tiles, on a cylindrical map (in CTH also toroidal map) this is
Max(xdim/2, ydim - 1) + Floor(Min(xdim/2, ydim - 1)/2)

Run through the operation from left to right. The result of each division is rounded down to the next integer. The final value has to be divided by 100 also but is not rounded, so if you get 312 that means costs are 3.12 gold.

NumOfCitiesMaintenance=
100 x (CityPop + 17) /18 x WorldSize_M / 100 x Handicap_M / 100 x NumOfCities


where Handicap_M = 85 for Monarch,
WorldSize_M = 30 for Standard size maps and +5/-5 for each step below resp. above (so 20 for Huge)

Run through the operation from left to right. The result of each division is rounded down to the next integer. The final value has to be divided by 100 also but is not rounded, so if you get 312 that means costs are 3.12 gold.
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Im not sure if its in your plans but i would like to see an overview of your empire if you want smile
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I'm certain I can do that. Give me a turn or two (so like 6 hours  lol ). I've taken some screenies just a day or two ago but they are already several turns old so it is really hard to give an overview that is not immediately outdated. But a few turns from now there will be a quieter period after the settling frenzy and the empire should be stable enough that an overview can be done with some hopefully valuable insights on what and why I did  it. 

I've also given up mostly on tracking opponents builds / pop / tech etc. The game is just racing too fast. I'm honestly unhappy with that, but I can't keep up with it given this turn pace. And I would feel bad slowing it down considerably. Still unhappy ... 

Also, Tarkeel got The Great Lighthouse. I did expect that already as he got Sailing and Masonry, he is ORG/IND and therefore has half-cost lighthouses as well, so that all really lends itself nicely to build it. I think that is a good move on his part, we will have to see how many trade routes the others give him. I've made an error and gave TRs to SD and ... someone else, because I didn't think about that OB would not benefit me. Noble told me but in two cases it was too late. Oh well, I will probably not declare war over it. Probably...
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(January 28th, 2021, 12:04)Serdoa Wrote: Apart from that I've very extensively planned the next turns today (between conferences). I'm going to abuse FIN-coast to get some key-tech done asap now while planting my next cities. Goal: 20 cities by T100!

popcorn

BTW turn pace will slow down once SD is back at work, so don't get too stressed.
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Made some corrections to the formulas.
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Jowy has a warrior at my border respectively I have some at his (various) borders. I would consider this a peace-time turn-split so to not double-move each other and as I played last I elected to not immediately play the next turn (and double-move and kill his warrior) but instead wait till he has played. I hope that was the right thing to do but I believe declaring war when I played last last turn and would now play first in the second would not be ok. BUT it is also not certain I'll even declare war this turn, that depends on what he does with his unit.
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(January 29th, 2021, 11:27)civac2 Wrote: Made some corrections to the formulas.

Thank you for providing those. As for your question regarding me: I live in Germany but I am Austrian. Important distinction wink But I got me one of your German women  neenerneener
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