[SPOILERS] Lewger goes for the Bigwyn

[Lewwyn]

ok, I like that. I want the horse city to help with production and out produce azza, but you are right it won't be online in time. so we can pop it out when we get gilgamesh up to size 8 and are confident in our forces. that will also keep our maintenence costs down and get us closer to currency, when we can more afford the city.

if you're going to stop the chop, though, you might as well road the tile he's on. it will only cost us 1 worker turn (since he would otherwise lose a turn returning to the forest) and we'll get a road out of it that will lead to the sheep/horse city eventually.

also we need to move the axe and chariots in the aeneid to the odyssey, I think. at least before peace treaty expires.

I set Odyssey to a chariot instead of an archer. More useful if we decide to attack.

[Bigger]

yeah I was back and forth. You'll notice I had it as a chariot in one of the above pics but changed it to an archer before I logged off.

Do chariots upgrade to horse archers in the cue when we discover HBR?

[Lewwyn]

yeah I was back and forth. You'll notice I had it as a chariot in one of the above pics but changed it to an archer before I logged off.

Do chariots upgrade to horse archers in the cue when we discover HBR?

nope

[Bigger]

yeah I was back and forth. You'll notice I had it as a chariot in one of the above pics but changed it to an archer before I logged off.

Do chariots upgrade to horse archers in the cue when we discover HBR?

nope

well ok. can we finish it by the time iron comes online without whipping?

[Lewwyn]

yeah I was back and forth. You'll notice I had it as a chariot in one of the above pics but changed it to an archer before I logged off.

Do chariots upgrade to horse archers in the cue when we discover HBR?

nope

well ok. can we finish it by the time iron comes online without whipping?

yes

[Bigger]

turn 89:

Not a whole lot of relevant pictures. Here is gilgamesh post-whip:

Next turn it retakes the grains for a long time. We'll keep it on high food until it reaches size 8, then balance cottages with hammers.

demos at max tax (probably can turn it up next turn until we finish HBR):

MFG dipped due to the capital whip - that will shoot up, probably solidly #1, once capital regrows and Math is founded\developed.
GNP will pick up as well, althoughit may be a bit before we can compete for #1 again.

Azza played his turn after Lewwyn logged out and refounded this monstrosity of a city:


I don't really get this. Last time he was forced to plop it down in a hurry due to our war dec. this time he had 9 more turns of enforced peace and still chose this lousy spot. well, it will have to be razed eventually, but it opens up a second front for him but not for us, so thats good. I suppose he will tkae the fish from the capital and use it to whip units out.

anyway he is temporarily up a city on us. and this reinforces our need to build a massive military. I also think it it makes us need the horse/sheep city more. we simply must have a MFG lead on him and probably need to outbuild him militariky 2 to 1 if we can. we will have lotsof hammers in gilgamesh and math, and a decent amount in odyssey, and we can whip in volsung and the aeneid - but the iliad probably won't produce much more military for us until we can build workshops, we'll need the extra hammer city to get a real edge on azza.

Anyway, not saying we should build it until gilgamesh is size 8, but probably soon after if our main front is secure.

here's the location, for reference:


gilgamesh expands its borders to 4th level next turn (thank you stonehenge) and we pick up 3 more land tiles. we can prebuild farms S and SW of the worker chopping atm at some point before the city is founded. we may need to build a road through that area for horses coming out of Math to head straight eastinstead of detouring north through gilgamesh (and all the rivers that will slow them down).

[Bigger]

grr, we have too much overflow for the warrior-spear trick:


I guess we build an archer (6 turns but we can finish it the turn iron is mined but not connected to start an axe the following turn). it will be useful when we found the next city.

I moved odysseus:


we took the 3 disputed tiles from azza. maybe we should figure out how we can get a worker back down there? if the chopping work her aborts her chop she can start the road in 3 turns without slowing down the iron connection. and build cottages for theaeneid/odyssey after the road is complete.

[Lewwyn]

Let's build a barracks in Gilgamesh with the chop. Should complete before iron.

[Bigger]

ok, thats nots not a bad idea. 15 overflow, 20 from chop, so we'll need 25 hammers in 3 turns? will slow down growth a tad, but not too much I guess. It can produce C1 axes while maths build C1 horse archers.

[Bigger]

why didn't you whip the worker in the iliad this turn?

that worker is badly needed. it can chop a forest and complete our workboat and archer before either decay. we aren't going to be able to borrow either grain for awhile and certainly can't wait 9 turns to slow build it. its at its happy cap now, but we lose a whip unhappy next turn and get silver online empire wide the following turn, so it should be fine. it will lose another unhappy or be close by the time we can afford to give it a grain.

also, i think after the forest south of gilgamesh is chopped that worker should rush to rebuild the road 1N of beowulf. that will be needed after the peace treaty, but be risky to send a worker there once the peace treaty is over. he can just barely get in there and out by the time it expires.