Realms Beyond Werewolf 2 : Game Thread

[Kyan]

Roland- i completely agree that i'll likely die tonight. So be it. I just hope that, as you already agreed to do (for the second time now?), you'll leave the limelight for someone else if uberfish is lynched and proved a wolf.

Maybe you'll accept by then that you're too easily persuaded to lead the charge? You were right on Sandover. That's it. That's all you've done. You even backed out of that one after getting people to believe in you. You then persuaded me, despite mentioning my doubts many times, that Meiz was the correct option. You then backed out of the Selrahc vote in the last minute.

If you want to 'bite back', feel free to do so. Every chat i'm either:

a) persuading you that your world isn't falling apart after you buggered up.
b) listening to you talk like you're single handedly winning this game. "I'm the puppet master!" "i'm the leader", "i knew, i'd have to taken on most of the roles for the village but i didn't know i'd have to be martyr too!"

Right now, the only role you're playing for the village is the real fool. Great move by the way Uber- you've done an impressive job of divide and conquer.

[Roland]

Roland- i completely agree that i'll likely die tonight. So be it. I just hope that, as you already agreed to do (for the second time now?), you'll leave the limelight for someone else if uberfish is lynched and proved a wolf.

Quoting tongue-in-cheek commentary out of context is wonderful. Paint me however you like. I don't care anymore, either. Oh, and Meiz wasn't my call. That was Luddite's, and you know it. Cheap shot Kyan, but once again you feel confident to speak as though you know everything - your word is gospel, just like Sunrise's.

If I'm wrong about Uberfish, I'll hold to my word - I'll retire from the forefront. If I'm right, however, you're going to look like a royal ass - and I won't be there to support you anymore.

This is where we part ways, no matter who lives or dies. Frankly, I almost hope I die tonight - bittersweet icing on the cake.

[scooter]

Kyan, you've done nothing to address the main issue and that's this - the only evidence we have on uberfish is that sunrise says he is a WW, and we also have significant evidence that uberfish might not be a WW, namely him being the one who pushed the agenda to lynch Selrahc.

If there is a second unknown seer claim, that means at best sunrise is a 50/50 that he's right. This is doesn't even account for the fact that it makes a lot of sense if sunrise is the fool, so you really have no case at all. You've been awfully rude to anyone and everyone today, which would be moderately acceptable if you actually brought something to the table today. You seem unwilling to take a step back from preconceived notions and consider things from an objective standpoint, and if others continue to follow suit, we'll be in a whole lot of trouble.

[uberfish]

Sigh I really don't want to die as a result of being randomly scanned by an inaccurate-seer.

There are 2 claimed sets of seer results the second one of which only just surfaced:

1) Dantski is innocent and I'm a wolf
2) Sareln is a wolf

It seems impossible that one of these two claims isn't from the real seer. Clearly, then, either Sareln or myself should be voted off. All I can ask is that if your main case against me is based on Sunrise's accusation, to please review which of these two scenarios you think is more likely based on the actions of all 3 named people to date, in light of the fact that Selrahc is now known to be a wolf.

Honestly I just don't see how Selrahc and I both being wolves makes any sense at all.

[haphazard1]

And sure enough, yet another claim is made for a power role.

I am beginning to feel quite short-changed as just a standard, run of the mill villager with no powers. Everybody else (seemingly) has some, why not me?

Anyway, Roland's story has changed too many times to believe much of anything he says. And this argument about who will be eaten by the wolves tonight -- "I'm more important so they'll kill me! And I'm happy about it!"
"No, no, I'm more important! And it will be a relief to die because I won't have to argue with you anymore!"

Really now. If all these power roles exist, the last person the wolves will kill will be a standard villager (if Roland really is one) or a singleton Mason. And why eliminate a division among the villagers? It's an odd form of self-puffery claiming to be the wolves' top target.

[uberfish]

And Sareln still isn't posting. No surprise there.

Haphazard, you believe me to have been suspicious, feel free to cross examine.

[Serdoa]

1) Roland told me about that Seer-claim much earlier.
2) We have a 50/50 chance that we kill a wolf as either uberfish or Sareln are one.
3) Sareln actions are in light of all evidence more wolfish then uberfishs

So, again, I can't understand why everyone seems so eager to just follow suit. But when I look at the votes I tell you what: I know right now that there will be no changes toward Sareln. Because you have mostly either those which are stubborn now (which is ok, I was that as well with several things) and those which are wolves.

[Kyan]

Kyan, you've done nothing to address the main issue and that's this - the only evidence we have on uberfish is that sunrise says he is a WW, and we also have significant evidence that uberfish might not be a WW, namely him being the one who pushed the agenda to lynch Selrahc.

If there is a second unknown seer claim, that means at best sunrise is a 50/50 that he's right. This is doesn't even account for the fact that it makes a lot of sense if sunrise is the fool, so you really have no case at all. You've been awfully rude to anyone and everyone today, which would be moderately acceptable if you actually brought something to the table today. You seem unwilling to take a step back from preconceived notions and consider things from an objective standpoint, and if others continue to follow suit, we'll be in a whole lot of trouble.

It's hardly a 50/50 choice when it's a wolf doing the claiming. Since the votes won't have time to change, UBERFISH is the one suddenly claiming to be the seer. Shock. It's sandover mark 2 and yet again, people have fallen for it.

Scooter- what i've brought to the table today are enough people confident in their beliefs to lynch a wolf. I've been rude to two people that i can think of:

1) f&i for being an idiot. I stand by that.
2) Roland. Largely because i got defensive over i somehow breached his trust and therefore network just because our opinions differed. Unless Sareln is a wolf ( in which his ratio increasing to 2:2) he's had 0:4 ratio thus far in voting for wolves to be lynched.

Uber- Sareln can't be online as often as you. There's 15mins left before we find out the truth eh? I genuinely do praise you on the attempt though. You've been a fantastic wolf.

[scooter]

Scooter- what i've brought to the table today are enough people confident in their beliefs to lynch a wolf.

So basically you've brought groupthink to the table, we've brought facts. Congratulations. Sigh.

Uberfish very well might be a wolf (I tend to think they both might be wolves), in which case we'll be lucky, but it's much less likely, and the evidence backs that up.

[Kyan]

1) Roland told me about that Seer-claim much earlier.
2) We have a 50/50 chance that we kill a wolf as either uberfish or Sareln are one.
3) Sareln actions are in light of all evidence more wolfish then uberfishs

So, again, I can't understand why everyone seems so eager to just follow suit. But when I look at the votes I tell you what: I know right now that there will be no changes toward Sareln. Because you have mostly either those which are stubborn now (which is ok, I was that as well with several things) and those which are wolves.

To be fair Serdoa, i accept im extremely stubborn. I think our problem, as a village, has been that most of us are

I sincerely doubt most of the votes on uber are from wolves.