Realms Beyond Werewolf 2 : Game Thread

[Rowain]

Ok that was the last 'easy' kill - although the remaining wolves have been making it really hard by throwing out distraction targets (eg. Sarelyn).

I'm convinced that at least two of the last three wolves come from :

Serdoa
Scooter
Rowain

As they are so vocal on the forums, I'm sure there will be lots of further distractions to come. I'm only going to move off these three with positive ID on a wolf from the Owl - although he's toast next night cycle as Uberfish pointed out the wolves know who it is.

Now I wonder why you didn't include Roland. Then your list would contain the top 4 posters in this thread which are conveniently the opposite of your posting

We have currently
1 seer onfirmed villager : Dantski
1 owl confirmed villager : Irgy
Kyan who is now called Owl but claimed to be Mason earlier
Mr. Nice Guy who claimed to have a secret role too

3 people that together with Kyan form the powergroup:

Gaspar
Lewwyn
Roland

and the rest:

haphazard1
Rowain
Sareln
Serdoa
scooter
Ug

I have currently no real top suspect and hope the Owl can help us.

[Serdoa]

I'm convinced that at least two of the last three wolves come from :

Serdoa
Scooter
Rowain

As they are so vocal on the forums, I'm sure there will be lots of further distractions to come.

Wow, so you say it is bad that we talk because we distract you? I guess staying quiet and saying nothing would be your preferred tactic? Oh wait, looking it up, yes, that was it exactly till now. Making a vote and not talking ANYTHING anymore. Except for a switch if convenient...

Anyway, attached updated voting overview. Maybe someone else wants to get all switched votes as well?

[Serdoa]

Rowain, do you have the post number when Irgy was found not guilty? I seem to have overread that.

[Gaspar]

Now I wonder why you didn't include Roland. Then your list would contain the top 4 posters in this thread which are conveniently the opposite of your posting

We have currently
1 seer onfirmed villager : Dantski
1 owl confirmed villager : Irgy
Kyan who is now called Owl but claimed to be Mason earlier
Mr. Nice Guy who claimed to have a secret role too

3 people that together with Kyan form the powergroup:

Gaspar
Lewwyn
Roland

and the rest:

haphazard1
Rowain
Sareln
Serdoa
scooter
Ug

I have currently no real top suspect and hope the Owl can help us.

I'd really avoid calling me part of the powergroup, that's been more Roland vouching for my innocence than me being a mover and shaker in this game - if you'll recall those 4 players were on opposite sides of the lynch vote. I will concur that those 4 are on my very short list of absolutely, positively not wolves. Anyway the only 100% verified innocent is... Dantski, since we have a dead seer who vouched for him. Well... unless there's a Godfather-type role in the game, since a seer wouldn't pick up on that. And, we're back to square one.

Since we can't have perfect knowledge, I think we can safely verify the first 3 names on your list as innocent. Its a bit of a red herring to include MNG in that group, since we don't actually know anything about any secret role he may or may not have, he gets to sit in the suspect list with the rest of us. I'll agree to the overwhelming unlikelihood of Roland or Lewwyn being wolves, particularly given how badly yesterday went for them. Oddly enough, cocking up to that extent makes you more likely to be innocent in my book. I also think Sareln gets to live in this group as well, since there's no way uber would have named his as his target with his desperation ploy unless he was hoping to take down an innocent before he died. You'd basically need a picture of him eating babies for me to believe he was guilty at this point.

So the overwhelming likelihood is that there are 3 wolves in the follwing group:

Mr. Nice Guy
Gaspar
haphazard1
Rowain
Serdoa
scooter
Ug the Barbarian.

So 3 wolves from 7 players. Not terrible odds, except the part where we can only screw up 3 times, and then we lose. How bout we all take a look at the names on that list and see what we can see. Even if we're wrong about 1 of the names above (only really Irgy to me could possibly slip back onto this list, just because I lack confidence in f&i to be fully transparent in explaining the role after some of the debacles of this game) there has to be at least 2 wolves on that list.

[Irgy]

Well, here's the list of "bad votes" so far.

Sareln day 4:
Lewwyn, Mr Nice Guy, scooter, Roland, Serdoa

Not Selrahc day 3:
Haphazard1, Mr Nice Guy, scooter

Meiz day 2:
Lewwyn, Gaspar, Roland, Kyan, Ug the Barbarian, Sareln

MJW day 1:
Ug the barbarian, Gaspar, Roland

Sareln day 1:
Dantski, scooter, Serdoa, Sareln

Selrahc for mayor day 1:
haphazard, Sareln, Serdoa, Roland

Of course, we've seen that the wolves have voted for each other in the past. So this is not a sure-fire way to catch them. However, as I said earlier, if it encourages them to vote each other off then that's a good thing anyway.

Roland tops out the list with 4 out of a maximum possible 5 bad votes, and even the one he got right was a last minute and meaningless switch. See why I didn't vote him for mayor? I'm getting somewhat dubious about him, but I'll save that line of thinking for another day. I only have one vote, since I'm getting my tonsils out tomorrow, so I need to make it stick. Serdoa has a next-worst 3 bad votes, and looks like a likely candidate. At the end of the day it's always going to be a guess, let's hope it's a good one.

[Serdoa]

You forgot me on Day 3 as "not Selrahc" as I stayed without vote. So, I am currently leading (together with Roland) as the worst voters. Though to my luck this is no voting for who did vote worst but who is a wolf.

Apart from that, I find it funny that from 3 votes done till now 2 are from potential wolves. And also that only the 3rd vote did take the time to explain why he votes for me (thanks for that, even that I think you should have made a "none vote" as this is the classical situation where you have to discuss stuff to understand it better and not just vote - especially when you are not available to change it if something comes up).

Am I am overly paranoid again or does it not make that much sense that Mr. Nice Guy and Ug voted for me without any explanation, any talks about it before? Thats like "Lets get the Bandwagon rolling and a villager killed today". Especially considering that we had a scry this night from our Owl and yet don't know what he can tell us. I mean I know that I am looking bad right now, thats why I hoped I would be scried this night so that my innocence is proven.

[Dantski]

Ug

Really surprised if I'm wrong considering how he's played upto this point. I don't think he'd be a terrible loss to the village either.

Discuss!

[Ug the Barbarian]

Ug

Really surprised if I'm wrong considering how he's played upto this point. I don't think he'd be a terrible loss to the village either.

Discuss!

Prepare to be really surprised then

And how you can talk about 'not being a terrible loss' with your lack of input ???

At least I pushed hard to get rid of Uberfish, before almost everyone else. Not noticed you push anything.

[Rowain]

Rowain, do you have the post number when Irgy was found not guilty? I seem to have overread that.

Owl- watched Irgy who went nowhere. Villager.
Seer - scried Dantski. Villager

Mind you there might be secret roles that scan as innocent despite beeing wolfish. Those 2 and whatever the owl brings in from last night are as far as is known the only scanned villagers.

[Serdoa]

Thank you