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Werewolf 3 Game Thread
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I meant to add, but forgot: if I have a reputation for anything, it must be for having tunnel vision in the end game. So I think the wolves may still be hoping I launch another crazy theory they can latch on to and ride all the way to victory. Or maybe I already did.
I suspect Zakalwe a little bit. What discredited my theory was day 1, when he was the first to vote for Lewwyn, which turned into a bandwagon... I don't think wolves would start a lynch train on day 1, too risky, in my opinion.
But reading the first pages again, I realized that when Zakalwe started to write his post voting for Lewwyn, Sandover had already voted to lynch Lewwyn. But before Zakalwe finished his writing, Sandover changed his vote. So, Zakalwe wasn't starting the bandwagon, he was only giving it some strenght. Together with his long post defending Selrahc, when Selrahc wasn't a sure kill on day 2 (defending a sure kill wolf wouldn't be a good wolf move) and it becomes even more strange. The uberfish vote on the same post is not a good sign too... I have to look more cerefully into the thread to not make a mistake, but I'll vote now: Zakalwe. This is vote is also motivated because I started to become a little suspicious of novice (even before Meiz post)... Just a strange feeling... But it'll be good for us to lynch the target that novice pointed out. This way our mayor intentions can become clearer.
I'm not even nearly sure on novice, so might as well make a vote. Zakalwe
Meiz Wrote:Zakalwe. Tried to get votes against fire&ice (#568 ), Lewwyn (#575) and uberfish (#662), when people were suspecting Selrahc and he was also gathering votes. He was also discrediting Ichabold's theory against Selrahc (also post #662). He does mention both Selrahc and PB as his suspects, but is not willing to cast a vote against either one. Leaving a way out? At the time I at least saw uberfish as very likely villager, so I don't understand his behavior at all. He is suspecting both PB and Selrahc, but still picks uberfish? He ultimately voted against Rowain, which can again be seen as an attempt to save Selrahc.
That's not an accurate summary, Meiz.
I never said I suspected Selrahc and Pocketbeetle. I said I was ambivalent towards them. I did vote for Pocketbeetle on day 1, but very reluctantly near the end of the day. On day 2 I was equally reluctant to vote for him, which is why I said "that's more like it" when he woke up and gave me another option. I voted for Uberfish because he was the one to "plant" the suspicion towards both Novice and Selrahc. Here it is: post #662. (Is there a way to look up a post by post number? I had to manually leaf through the pages to find it.) Funny how Novice suspects me because the wolves would obviously kill me because I would never get lynched anyway, and in response, everybody suddenly wants to lynch me.
Meiz Wrote:Zakalwe. Tried to get votes against fire&ice (#568 ), Lewwyn (#575) and uberfish (#662), when people were suspecting Selrahc and he was also gathering votes. He was also discrediting Ichabold's theory against Selrahc (also post #662). He does mention both Selrahc and PB as his suspects, but is not willing to cast a vote against either one. Leaving a way out? At the time I at least saw uberfish as very likely villager, so I don't understand his behavior at all. He is suspecting both PB and Selrahc, but still picks uberfish? He ultimately voted against Rowain, which can again be seen as an attempt to save Selrahc. Wow, I don't remember this post, but this is some strong stuff. Despite my suspicions on Lewwyn (Roland too), I'm going to go with Zakalwe. This post is one of the strongest pieces of evidence, especially now that it's put in perspective of the last couple of days.
Random reactions so far:
Lewwyn Wrote:Ummm, Novice was on Rowain yesterday, but he switch OFF him. Wouldn't that mean he's not likely to vote for him today. I don't pretend to know novice's mind, but what I do know is you can't make this statement because Rowain may or may not be be the one person Novice doesn't want to vote for. I meant, at the time I voted, novice's vote was on Rowain, and I had already a bit of suspicion of Rowain, so that was my best guess. After having read the thread to this point, though, I'm more inclined to call Rowain innocent on the basis of 'a wolf wouldn't risk a crusade'. It's vaguely possible that Rowain is a wolf, willing to exchange 1 for 1 with a villager, but probably unlikely. I read the thread up to here, and I frankly don't have a clue what you were talking about with 'voting for Rowain is a wolf ploy'. Is that a theory that depended on Pocketbeetle being a wolf, so that Rowain was the only non-wolf option day 2? Or is it still a valid theory? Ok, I missed this part entirely! Sareln Wrote:[COLOR="Red"]Cull was mod-killed! With Pocketbeetle dead and a villager, that means that all three bandwagons day 1 were villagers. Therefore it says practically nothing about who's a wolf, but in my mind it clears novice and Lewwyn for sure - I can't think of any reason for a wolf to draw attention to themself that blatantly except saving a fellow wolf, and we've established that didn't happen! Also, yikes, we're down another villager - what's the record now, 6 villagers dead to 1 wolf? I knew things would be bad, but I didn't expect this bad! novice Wrote:I'm sure I could, but let's start with the simple explanations. It is much more likely that the wolves are trying to blend in in the villagers conspiracy theories rather than cooking up their own theories. If I were a wolf in this village, I would just keep supporting whichever theory is currently in vogue and happens to be false. Maybe that would make me a bad wolf, but I think that is the "natural" wolf behaviour to look for. Well, that's what Selrahc did with my theory. And Mr. Nice Guy. Rowain refused to attack it, but I don't think he followed me in any way, shape, or form, except for a mutual wrong suspicion of Pocketbeetle. I can see the case on Zakalwe, a bit, but he didn't agree with me, so Mr. Nice Guy. I'm still mostly confused about everything but the belief that novice and Lewwyn are villagers; just about everyone seems like a villager from their posting, as well. I hate to put myself up there, but I mostly agree with novice's belief that the wolves are likely the quiet ones who we therefore don't have a read on, rather than the active people who seem innocent. And I do find it highly ironic that I went in the course of 2 'days' from being convinced Lewwyn and novice were wolves to being convinced they're not. I'm getting paranoid about my judgment here, so maybe should be ignored.
EitB 25 - Perpentach
Occasional mapmaker
I completely understand the kill, and agree novice is too likely to be protected, at least it was not a power role, hopefully the power of the masons and baner will come into play when the numbers dwindle.
I can't quite understand this sudden rush on Zakalwe, seems to have come almost from nowhere, and I rate him quite lowly. I am happy going for MNG or F&I, since MNG has a vote already I will go for him. Oh and worst baner ever! 
zakalwe Wrote:That's not an accurate summary, Meiz. I thought I knew what that word means, but after googling it, I was incorrect. Sorry. Still it seems like you were trying to draw attention away from Sehlrac with your posts.
@Scooter: did you read my posts, or just Meiz' inaccurate summary? I see you are quick to follow, as usual. Maybe you should change your name to Trailer instead?*
@Meiz: how many bandwagons does this make? You do know how to get them started, don't you? Just give them a solid kick at just the right time? I'm starting to suspect that Sareln checked "raging barbs" in the game options.* *horrible pun, I know... best I could think of |
