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Roland · March 29th, 2011, 17:35

Mardoc Wrote:So...any plans to update that with new info as it comes in? Or to do other days? It's a pretty massive undertaking, even with copy and paste. But very handy.

Yeah, actually. I have all the data saved, properly color-coded and formatted. Updating it is a snap - simple "replace" command in Notepad. As for doing other days I am considering it. Depends on how much time I have. I chose Day 2 because it was the only day we had a confirmed 'Wolf on the block, and managed to kill him - thus it was the most revealing. There are other days that can be almost as useful, I feel. What amazes me is just how little data there is in the final tallies - all that work that we do, updating periodically, and in the end 90% of the useful information is lost to time (I mean, really, who wants to go digging through almost 200 pages of stuff just to pick out the little gems? lol

). That's probably the most striking thing I learned while doing this - how much we lose when it's all over, and how important that information is for forming theories.

I'll see if I can't get one more done. That Day took me... about 2+ hours to do. I could maybe see myself doing one more Day tonight, but that's probably it - unless it's a later Day (and thus shorter). Any particular request? wink

Ichabod · March 29th, 2011, 18:02

Thanks for the post, Roland.

What I find strange about Rowain is:

1st. Bruindane post about PB and Rowain being villagers + Bruindane voting to lynch PB before and after this post.

2nd. The fact that Selrahc haven't voted for PB but voted for Rowain. This is too strange and I don't think I'll understand it before we know Rowain's role.

3rd. PB was lynched on day 3. This was Rowain's justification about that:

Rowain Wrote:So good to know that I have been an idiot. Sorry PB and other villagers that I have led you astray.

@novice: My suspicions depended alot on PB beeing a wolf. With him beeing a villager this theory is null and void. I have led the village on one wild goose chase already. I need now more time to think about what happened.

On day 4, NOBODY (!), I repeat, NOBODY voted for Rowain. This is too strange. The game just kept on and everybody seemed to have forgotten about the last day. Rowain even throwed a vote against Lewwyn without any reasoning behind it on the start of day 4 and nobody cared... Why?

4th. I still find the "RIP Ichabod" post very strange. Why would you write a comment like "It was the 4th Selrahc voter" and note make any comment about me being the baner? I just don't buy it...

Another interesting thing to note is that Zakalwe also called this Selrahc voters being killed at night on day 4. I know it may seem stupid, but I find it strange. I fear zakalwe is playing a very happy and easy-going wolf, not caring much and not getting angry when he starts to accumulate votes...

Anyway, if Rowain is a wolf, the villager will be in very good shape. If he's not, it's almost GG wolves.

Roland · March 29th, 2011, 20:16

(Cue Street Fighter II - Guile Music)
Round 1 - Fight!

(Going to have to do this in stages, since the forum seems to have a heart attack if I try to do it in a single post.)

I've no intention of doing Day 1 unless there's a high demand for it. 31 pages of dual-votes (Mayor & lynch) is a bit much, methinks, but if people really want me to I'll do it tomorrow night. At any rate, here's the final report. Days 2 - 5, grouped accordingly. Hope this proves useful to someone - it's a fair amount of work! :neenernee

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[SPOILER]
5v: pocketbeetle ( Rowain, Lewwyn, Jkaen, Mardoc, fire&ice )
5v: novice ( Mr. Nice Guy, Sandover, Serdoa, Selrahc, Meiz )
5v: Selrahc ( Ichabod, uberfish, novice, [b][color=DeepSkyBlue

Roland · March 29th, 2011, 20:18

(Cue Street Fighter II - Blanka Music)
Round 2 - Fight!

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[SPOILER]
6v: pocketbeetle ( Rowain, Roland, Meiz, Irgy, Lewwyn, Sandover )
3v: Mr. Nice Guy ( zakalwe, Jkaen, pocketbeetle )
3v: Jkaen ( fire&ice, Mr. Nice Guy, scooter )
3v: Rowain ( Serdoa, Mardoc, Bruindane )
1v: Lewwyn ( novice )

fire&ice votes Jkaen
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Rowain votes pocketbeetle
novice votes Rowain
Sandover votes zakalwe
Lewwyn votes zakalwe
Bruindane votes zakalwe
Irgy votes Meiz
pocketbeetle votes Rowain
scooter votes Rowain
Jkaen votes Rowain
Roland votes pocketbeetle
Meiz votes pocketbeetle
Sandover switches from zakalwe to Meiz
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Bruindane switches from zakalwe to Sandover
Meiz switches from Sandover to pocketbeetle
Jkaen switches from Rowain to Mr. Nice Guy
Gold Ergo Sum votes Lewwyn
Gold Ergo Sum switches from Lewwyn to No Vote (EDIT)
Sandover switches from Meiz to Mr. Nice Guy
Bruindane switches from Sandover to novice
Serdoa votes Rowain
Irgy switches from Meiz to pocketbeetle
Bruindane switches from novice to No Vote
Mardoc votes Rowain
scooter switches from Rowain to Jkaen
Lewwyn switches from zakalwe to pocketbeetle
Bruindane switches from No Vote to pocketbeetle
Jkaen

Roland · March 29th, 2011, 20:20

(Cue Street Fighter II - Zangief Music)
Round 3 - Fight!

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[SPOILER]
8v: Mr. Nice Guy ( fire&ice, Jkaen, zakalwe, novice, Lewwyn, Serdoa, Irgy, Meiz )
5v: fire&ice ( Roland, Mr. Nice Guy, Mardoc, scooter, Gold Ergo Sum )
1v: Lewwyn ( Rowain )

Lewwyn votes zakalwe
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Ichabod switches from zakalwe to No Vote
Ichabod switches from No Vote to Serdoa
Mr. Nice Guy votes Jkaen
Roland votes fire&ice
Lewwyn switches from zakalwe to Mr. Nice Guy
Mr. Nice Guy switches from Jkaen to fire&ice
Meiz switches from zakalwe to [b][color=DeepSkyBlue]fir

Roland

(Cue Street Fighter II - Chun-Li Music)
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[/SPOILER]

Gold Ergo Sum · March 29th, 2011, 22:47

Guile's music was awesome! I had completely forgotten that.

Yoga fire! Yoga flame!

Seems pretty quiet around here. I will try to hop on in the morning and see what's shaking around vote time.

Commendable project Roland. I should have time to look it over in detail this weekend and see if anything stands out to me.

Glad to see you back full time Ichabod. Your thoughts are always enlightening.

Rowain · March 29th, 2011, 22:55

Ichabod Wrote:Anyway, if Rowain is a wolf, the villager will be in very good shape. If he's not, it's almost GG wolves.

It's not Good Game wolves but villagers who happily allow several villager lynches in a row instigated by the same people.

Again Ichabod: why don't you call your debt and I vote to lynch myself?

Rowain · March 30th, 2011, 00:25

Rowain Wrote:It's not Good Game wolves but villagers who happily allow several villager lynches in a row instigated by the same people.

I have to revoke this statement. It is wrong and unjust to the wolves. They did play a strong game till now. Afterall they sniffed out our seer and killed with uberfish, sandover and Irgy 3 very valuable players.

Rowain · March 30th, 2011, 00:39

Jkaen Wrote:Exactly, I have been wrong, but as I said, those people were up there on seperate reasons, if Mr X and Y was only on my suspect list because I thought they were both acting together and then I found out Y was innocent, then yes I would drop X.

Here you are wrong. The fact that you zuse the same measurement if something is villagerlike or wolflike links your valuation together.
You use the same yardstick to decide who is a wolf or a villager. And given the results your stick is absolutly broken that why I think you should refrain from calling out suspects.

For you and Meiz I have a proposal: Most likely I'll get lynched today, So if you are villagers an then see that you lynched a villager again can you promise me that you won't post any suspicions, votes etc before the second part of each day in the future?
Please let the villagers draw conclusions or suspects first without your interference. Perhaps the village does then have a chance.

Of course if you are a wolf then continue to spill your wrong accusation as much as you like maybe someone will realise it before its too late.

tl;dr: you lynch me I turn out as villager you shut the f*** up ok?

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