September 8th, 2011, 13:55
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If it's between Serdoa and Gaspar, I'd rather choose Serdoa (giving big villager vibes).
September 8th, 2011, 14:04
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Ichabod Wrote:I feel more confident voting Sareln. I still can't see why he kept his mayor vote on a player that was voting to lynch him (and he didn't adressed this issue, even though he already posted in the thread). And I think he only contributed when people voted to lynch him. He stayed quiet the rest of the time.
I prefer Gaspar as mayor over Lewwyn, I don't want to split the votes between Gaspar and Serdoa to give Lewwyn the mayorship. I knew from previous games that Gaspar's vote on me was just fishing for a response and he'll move on after I've addressed his questions. Therefore, I can still vote my preference for Mayor without leading to my own lynch.
I'm well aware of how weak my play is on day1, hence the quiet play. The wolves are always looking for good fall guys, and I don't see a need to volunteer myself with poor villager play - basically try not to dig the same hole I dug in WW5 so that even with a confirmed seer-scried innocence, I was still lynched!
I'm glad to have heard from Twinkletoes, and am happy to switch off him at this point. I'm not sure enough of anyone to push a new name, so I guess I'll vote Uberfish to do a 2 vote swing from TT to Uber. That way it starts to build some protection against late swings.
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September 8th, 2011, 14:05
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Ok, it seems a few of you have issues with some of my earlier posts showing a bit more 'humour' than perhaps I am known for with my WW posting.
Well the mayor vote was just to try and keep the good spirits up after Gaspar's post. Plus as a politics student I can't help but get involved when there's an election going on!
With the replies to zak - especially the 'You called it' post - I was basically expressing my usual feelings when it comes to dealing with his villager style. Plus it was pretty funny how Rowain said that he would move his vote on to him or MNG and then he proceeded to do so. Couldn't resist a little jibe with the history we have!
Right now, with the lack of a Seer and noone else presenting enough of a case to be a WW in my eyes, I think that leaving the uberfish question hanging would leave a cloud over our discussions for future lynches.
Though I am not 100% sure on his guilt, we need to be able to focus fully on future lynches so I vote uberfish for the gallows.
In terms of the mayoral vote, I am still unsure as there is no major consensus and with the mayor position now eminently desirable for the wolves, I am going to stay safe and avoid voting for the leaders as they all seem to only have max 3 or 4 backers, which could be a wolf manoeuvre.
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September 8th, 2011, 14:05
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TT, I remember PBEM7. I remember when you get angry but don't want to show it. When you feel like it is unfair how people act. I think a wolf-TT would not feel it is unfair that he comes under fire, no matter the reason. I'm still bad at phrasing stuff in English sometimes, but what I want to say is that I believe you right now
Rowain
Prone to change of course as he won't gain traction today. But I wanted to get out to TT what I feel about his last post AND I wanted to remind Rowain that I still not fully believe him.
September 8th, 2011, 14:08
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Twinkletoes89 Wrote:In terms of the mayoral vote, I am still unsure as there is no major consensus and with the mayor position now eminently desirable for the wolves, I am going to stay safe and avoid voting for the leaders as they all seem to only have max 3 or 4 backers, which could be a wolf manoeuvre.
Well, if you, Sareln and zak would move to me, that would take care of the "only have max 3 or 4 backers" as I would be at least at 6
September 8th, 2011, 14:09
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Oh, one other thing as for me being mayor making sense: I can be online at days end. Seems that is rather an issue for Lewwyn and Gaspar if I understood correctly.
September 8th, 2011, 14:10
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Lynch:
9v: Uberfish ( Catwalk, Zakalwe, Scooter, Meiz, Jkaen, Lewwyn, MNG, Sareln, Twinkletoes)
3v: Twinkletoes89 ( Erebus, Roland, Gaspar)
2v: Zakalwe ( Uberfish, Injera)
1v: Injera ( Rowain)
1v: Sareln (Ichabod)
1v: Rowain (Serdoa)
All Voting
History:
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September 8th, 2011, 14:12
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Serdoa Wrote:Well, if you, Sareln and zak would move to me, that would take care of the "only have max 3 or 4 backers" as I would be at least at 6
I am confident that Serdoa can beat Lewwyn in the Mayoral race, I am fine with either Serdoa or Gaspar. I wrote my piece before a bunch of Serdoa votes came in. I will start tallying the mayor votes now.
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September 8th, 2011, 14:18
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Mayor Tally:
5v: Serdoa (Serdoa, Ichabod, Roland, Meiz, Sareln)
4v: Gaspar (Gaspar, Erebus, Injera, JKaen)
3v: Lewwyn (Lewwyn, MNG, Scooter)
1v: Zakalwe (Catwalk)
1v: Twinkletoes (Twinkletoes)
1v: Uberfish (Rowain)
Not voting (2): Uberfish, Zakalwe
Vote History:
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September 8th, 2011, 14:23
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Roland Wrote:Incorrect. I stated experience with uberfish as both a 'Wolf, and a Villager, but never as a fellow 'Wolf. I've never been a 'Wolf before, let alone in conjunction with uberfish. My bad, I misread. Still want to know if he's your fellow wolf in this game, though :neenernee
Quote:What I was referring to was an earlier game where PMs were allowed, and uberfish convinced me of his innocence when he was actually a 'Wolf. He tried it a second time in a later game, and IIRC I didn't buy it at first, but I think eventually he won me over - to the same effect. I'd like to think I've since wised up, which is why my reaction to his explanation was that it seemed like a Villager-uberfish ploy, rather than a 'Wolf-uberfish ploy. The ploy itself was standard uberfish fare (regardless of how others may view its helpfulness), but just something in his tone in the explanation post made me fall on the side of Villager vibe this time around. It just didn't seem so... obvious, as it has in the past. I remember one game where he tried such a ploy as a 'Wolf, and I thought to myself "I can see right through this. He's guilty." That wasn't the case this time around, so again - made me think he was innocent.
Uberfish is a colorful character - 'Wolf or Villager - but he's usually very insightful, and pretty spot on. What I'm seeing in this game... isn't so much. This, coupled with your point about how he could "change his style on a whim" (which I don't agree with; instead, I see him learning the difference between a ploy that works and one that doesn't) makes me question whether this is a much smarter uberfish 'Wolf than I've seen in the past. I've always thought uberfish is smart, and he's always proven to have a big set of brass balls (pardon the colorful language), but he never seemed to be able to use both at the same time as well as either no its own. I'm honestly starting to think he's learned how, and it seems I'm not the only one who picked up on it - I'm just very late to the party.
I'm having a hard time understanding your statements, please correct me if I got any of this wrong:
1) He's fooled you 2x out of 3 as a wolf in the past.
2) You think you've learned how to read him better since then.
3) He seems different this game, and that leads you to conclude that he's more likely to be a villager.
4) He used to be either smart or ballsy.
5) Now you suspect he might be both, and that leads you to conclude he might be wolf? Or still leaning towards him as villager? Not sure where you currently stand.
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