[SPOILERS - PBEM17] novice and spaceman - Suryavarman of India

[spacemanmf]

I played PBEM13 first, but I'll quickly do the PBEM17 report first because, well, it's quick. I set research for Researchable Parts, due in 2 turns (could have done it 1 turn but can turn up research when doing Steam Power->Railroad).



Not much happening, so here is Flooded Market, source of our next Great Person.

[spacemanmf]

Chat with Dave:

16:28 me: hi
16:29 David: hey
me: space here
David: gotcha
16:30 don't have a lot of time actually
but wanted to ask if you guys had spoken to Shoot/reached any firm conclusion on going to war with Darrell
16:31 me: as far as i know, shoot wasn;t interested in going for darrell
16:32 David: alrighty, didn't know if you two had worked something or other out
16:33 well, this puts me in a slighty awkward spot
16:34 me: how so?
David: laying cards on table:
built a military, I now have to leverage it into some sort of land advantage
options:
16:35 3v1 war against Rego, which threatens to put Darrell in even more of a winning position
3v2 war, that I'm not sure is winnable
since you have nothing to gain from going after Rego and Shoot has nothing to gain from going against Darrell
16:36 catch-22 if you will
16:38 me: back in 5 - hang on
16:41 sorry, workphone went
David: it's all good
me: well, there is still the option of a succession of 2v1s
16:42 do you and shoot both stand to gain from attacking rego?
David: yes, he's wedged between us
can cut off his iron pretty early on and make his war painful
16:44 me: and are you both ready to go>?
if you went for him, would darrell really be a threat to step in?
what are your relative NAPs?
16:45 David: Shoot has a NAP with a 5t cooldown with Rego, once he cancels that, we're good to go
he's in the process of spamming rifles at the moment
me: yeah i've seen a few
:-)
David: I am in the process of churning out airships
me: oh yeah you got the physics GS right?
David: yep
me: and what about NAPs with darrell?
16:46 David: we both have a 10t rolling NAP
me: ok so you have at least a 5t window
and that's only if darrell comes in as soon as possible
David: the catch is I promised Darrell ships for this venture
16:47 basically, if I don't plunge a knife into his back, I owe him a loan of EIs
and if he doesn't get them he will grow suspicious
16:48 me: so darrell joins in?
(on your side)
David: yes in theory
puts his army ashore near the beautiful city of Pindicator
16:49 me: ok well that makes it easier to take out rego doesn't it?
16:50 David: yes, significantly, lol
me: so... what's your problem again...? :-)
16:51 David: trying to make a decision, more or less, worried about Darrell running away with the game
I wanted to check and see where you guys stood
me: well darrell will spend some energy on rego
David: if you would be fine with calling off the war
me: and then when there are four, we re-evaluate
we're happy to stay out of this one
16:52 we're not really ready to go on the offensive - we have more of a defensive set up right now
David: makes sense, tech and build while we tear each other apart
me: when shoot said he wasn';t interested in going after darrell, there was no point going hell for leather
well, we're still building frigates & cannons, loosely as agreed
but they function as much as defensive units
16:53 no use for attacking without transports or rifles
David: alrighty
me: so we;re building up, just not as we might had shoot committed
but we'll be ready for hte next one
:-)
David: hey, I'm sorry to cut this short, but I have class in 5 minutes so I have to run
me: cleared things up, right?
David: yes, thank you
me: we'll stay out of it this time, but we'll be ready to be at your service next time
David: we'll see where this all goes
16:54 lol, probably you'll be the ones running away with the game at that point :P
me: well then you get the choice to go after us instead i guess
but i genuinely think our moment has passed
specialist economy is less effective late game
David: we'll find out soon enough :P
me: yeah
David: I mean:
at any rate, cheers!
me: no worries
catch you later

In brief, it looks like Shoot, Dave & darrell will be going after rego next. We'll stay out of it and everyone will see how the land lies before the next world war. I'm happy with that.

We'll have Railroad soon, then can whip machine guns in defence if we feel threatened.

[novice]

In brief, it looks like Shoot, Dave & darrell will be going after rego next. We'll stay out of it and everyone will see how the land lies before the next world war. I'm happy with that.

Me too.

[novice]

Got it.

[novice]

T122 played.

Demos at 100% research, before ending turn. Not too bad, actually.



Pics:







Demos after ending turn, at 30% science and researching Aesthetics:



I'm planning the National Epic in Investment and Ironworks in Cash Cow. We have a GSci stored, he could generate 30bpt by settling in Capital, but we could also use him for a golden age if we get a suitable GP or we could bulb something useful, e.g. Physics. So I'm okay with stockpiling him for now.

Building mostly infra as we're trying to catch up while others war. Growing our cities will allow us to emergency whip Machine guns later.

Cash Cow should get windmills and workshops to maximize hammers.

Remember, if cities are growing onto coast but lack specialist slots, consider whipping something that gives us more slots.

We have research visibility on Shoot (Corporation due in 1), and almost on Darrell and Rego. Switched EPs off Dave to try and get visibility on Darrell and Rego and keep it on Shoot.

[spacemanmf]

Ooh, you've played it. Nice one. I've been struggling to get connected but have finally managed.

I didn't think I was letting things grow onto coast tiles.

[novice]

Ooh, you've played it. Nice one. I've been struggling to get connected but have finally managed.

I didn't think I was letting things grow onto coast tiles.

It was mostly a reminder. I think there was one coast tile being worked.

[spacemanmf]

It was mostly a reminder. I think there was one coast tile being worked.

Yeah but I bet that was from inter-turn growth!

[novice]

Yeah but I bet that was from inter-turn growth!

Hmm, you might be right.

Btw we should probably whip the settler in NB, settle marble, and then start the NE in Investment or in our NP city. I think in Investment, as it has some GPP naturally and can work a ton of specialists.

[spacemanmf]

Btw we should probably whip the settler in NB, settle marble, and then start the NE in Investment or in our NP city. I think in Investment, as it has some GPP naturally and can work a ton of specialists.

Yeah and our NP city has to build the NP yet.