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Best Ball: Immortal

I'm wondering if anyone would be interested in a succession-like game on Immortal difficulty level. The point would be to learn about how to play at that level. Rather than the standard succession game format wherein players take turns in sequence, I'm thinking we could try a "best ball" (from golf) format. Everyone runs some small number of turns from the last accepted save, then we compare turnsets and see which one we like best and use that as the next accepted save.

For the first turnset, maybe we'd run until the turn before discovering Bronzeworking or Animal Husbandry so that we're still "in the dark" about what resources are where before accepting a turnset.

The point is learning, so replaying from a misclick or to switch to a civic a turn or two before we actually remembered to change it is fine, but no reloading to change the outcome of a battle or to try scouting in a different direction.

Yes, there will be a little bit of spoiler info from comparing the save points, but to the extent possible, I'm interested in choosing between different turnsets based on strategic thinking rather than outcomes.

At some point, it may become clear that we've either won or lost, in which case we could discontinue. Maybe even start again if there's any interest. Or, we may get to the point (around 1AD or so) where it would be more interesting to continue as a succession game rather than this best ball format.

Also, using this format, anyone would be able to jump in at any time and play a few turns, then submit it for comparison.

I know the usual "beyond" in Realms Beyond indicates some sort of variant, but in this case, maybe it would mean beyond a usual, comfortable level of play. Also, I tend to learn a lot while playing succession games

The settings I'm thinking of would be a randomly rolled game: Vanilla 1.61, random leader, continents, standard size, normal speed, temperate climate, medium sea level.

Does this sound interesting to anyone?
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That sounds good. I'd like to do it if you Wouldn't mind. smile
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I'm interested as well!
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Okay, I think we'll give this a shot. Tomorrow, I'll open a thread over at CFC to contain the discussion. I'll also try to pull together some links to threads that might be of use to us.

In the meantime, I've rolled up a save.

As a teaser, here is the opening screenshot:

[Image: civ4screenshot0001vf6.th.jpg]

I'm already conflicted about how to begin!
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Compromise Wrote:Does this sound interesting to anyone?

I'd like to take part (though I'm not keen on the whipping bug, etc).
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I would also be interested, but can't guarentee every turn set

VoiceOfUnreason Wrote:I'd like to take part (though I'm not keen on the whipping bug, etc).
With RB folks I would be more than comfortable with a gentlemen's (or ladies') agreement on this issue.
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Regarding the whipping bug: I'd forgotten about that. Let's keep it as a gentleman's agreement for this first installment. I'm not interested in learning to (ab)use the whipping bug, so maybe if we run this again, we'll load a mod or use Blake's savegame-compatible .dll file. For now, let's agree to not intentionally seek to maximize the gain from this exploit.

I've set up a thread on CFC for this game: here

Looking forward to the insights of the interested!
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Starting looks ok, river plus fish, one more culture increase an you get pigs
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I'm quite interested in this as well, and I think it's a great plan to use this format so anyone who can't submit an entry won't be holding anyone else up. The thing that I'm unsure of is why we went with random settings and a random leader while trying to conquer such a hard level. I know when I try to make the move by myself to playing only Emperor from Monarch I won't start by using the weakest leader.
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sunrise089 Wrote:The thing that I'm unsure of is why we went with random settings and a random leader while trying to conquer such a hard level. I know when I try to make the move by myself to playing only Emperor from Monarch I won't start by using the weakest leader.
I hope you are not Disparaging Mansa Musa!!!!!!! wink

Mansa has very strong traits and a very strong UU. We got lucky getting him.
On League of Legends I am "BertrandDeHorn"
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