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I won't be here for the deadline, but I'm leaving my vote in Jkaen. I don't see why his roleclaim makes any difference against what was previously said. It's especially strange to see so much votes changing due to this reason.
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zakalwe Wrote:I'm not really sure what reasons others have posted for voting Scooter, because I have just been skimming. But I feel he has spent too much time defending players who may well be villagers playing poorly. (Tasunke and Cyneheard, specifically.) Feels like an attempt to gain town cred. I also noticed him echoing the reasons of others without giving due credit for it, perhaps in another attempt to gain town cred. He did the same thing in WW7.
No no no. I'll spell it out simply. I've played quite a few of these games and lurked most of the rest. I have been a werewolf in the vast majority of those games. I've sat back and LAUGHED as time after time villagers said something stupid and equally stupid villagers jumped all over them, not getting through their heads that werewolves will typically NOT make stupid statements on day 1. So now that I'm on the OTHER side and I'm seeing the SAME stupid votes happening again, I'd like to stop it from happening. And what do I get in return? That's right, votes from the same people who typically make stupid day 1 votes. 
Look, I have no real experience wolf-hunting. But I have tons of experience watching various villages self-destruct. So duh, I'm going to harp on the observations that I'm good at making and be less confident on observations I'm NOT good at making (or at least I don't think so - time will tell I guess).
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Ichabod Wrote:I won't be here for the deadline, but I'm leaving my vote in Jkaen. I don't see why his roleclaim makes any difference against what was previously said. It's especially strange to see so much votes changing due to this reason.
That's not my reason to change votes - it's more Jkaen's tone shifting. Nothing I can really pin down, though.
@scooter: who's innocent? who's left on the list when you remove those? I will probably be around for the deadline, if you can make a case for who I should vote instead?
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I'm going to stick with Jkaen as well, I'm not convinced by any of the recent discussion. I agree with scooter's general argument that it's possible to identify poorly founded bandwagons, which is basically what Gaspar said in an earlier post. I don't think it damns him that he's trying to identify innocents. I will likely stick with my Jkaen vote as well, and will be off for bed in probably 10 minutes (wife's orders).
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I'd like to say, I can understand Scooters reasons for calling Cyneheard and Tasunke innocent. At the moment I'm getting an innocent read off them too, for much the same reason. I see how it can be a wolf plot to gain good feeling, but if you're a villager and you're getting an innocent read on players up for lynch it is not a bad thing to say.
I felt his talking about "Probably a 2-way innocent lynch today" was *much* more wolfish. It doesn't help the village at all, and it's totally self serving. If you don't like the lynch candidates, say why not. Propose other ones. Don't try to impotently complain, and distance yourself from any wrongdoing.
I think JKaen is odd, and possibly wolfish. But I may very well switch to Scooter purely on the back of that statement.
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Let's see if I can catch up super-fast. This is what the vote is currently based on last Uberfish post as a reference.
Sareln Update:
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Jkaen (6) - Catwalk, Ichabod, Mardoc, MJW, Scooter, Selrahc
Tasunke (4) - Cyneheard, Jkaen, Lewwyn, Slowcheetah
Scooter (3) - Gaspar, Novice, Zakalwe
Slowcheetah (1) - Rowain
Catwalk (1) - Sareln
Lewwyn (1) - Tasunke
Sareln (1) - Meiz
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Oh, and since I first placed my vote I'm happy with an innocent Catwalk vibe for now, so:
Unvote Catwalk
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I find the switch to scooter highly insincere. Not so much for the reasons stated, but because it's unlikely to gain sufficient traction this late. Day 1 we're guessing, and with a weak majority we're certain to guess wrong and learn nothing from it. I don't think the case against scooter is strong enough that it warrants further vote splitting.
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Quote:Oh, and since I first placed my vote I'm happy with an innocent Catwalk vibe for now, so:
I'm not. :neenernee
While I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now, I would still be happy to see Catwalk get strung up. Something about the play today has been off. Fluctuating.
He definitely bears further watching.
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Jkaen (4) - Catwalk Ichabod MJW Selrahc
Scooter (4) - Gaspar Mardoc Novice Zakalwe
Tasunke (4) - Cyneheard Jkaen Lewwyn Slowcheetah
Slowcheetah (2) - Meiz Rowain
Lewwyn (1) - Tasunke
Selrahc (1) - Scooter
Not voting - Sareln
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