The Haunted Forest: Mardoc puts the Sidar to the test.

[Thoth]

As cool as it would be to give the Infernals to you, Thoth, I think it's a cheesy thought, in line with the XP-farming idea. At least if we allied - and if we didn't, then it's a scary thought :neenernee

Trust me. If you summon the Infernals, I'll be your BFF.





Assuming of course that you agree to sign over your immortal soul to me forever. In blood.


OOC: Dayumn. We can summon the Infernals and have one of us swap?

Shitbag Motherfucker.

Let's fucking do it.

It ain't cheese when the game rules allow it and your foe is headed for Basium to get his buddy into the game.

I've got me steel toes on. Let's go kick some arse!

[Mardoc]

Thoth will know why this is here:


Serdoa's got 21 remaining horsemen in Asteroids. We have 13 units that can plausibly kill one each, plus the ghosts. Just a few more turns and we'll take a whack at it.

Finally - looks like High Priests might actually be an option (assuming the war goes swimmingly)!

[Thoth]

As cool as it would be to give the Infernals to you, Thoth, I think it's a cheesy thought, in line with the XP-farming idea. At least if we allied - and if we didn't, then it's a scary thought :neenernee

Scary thought? nonsense.

I'm happy to be your ally.

In exchange for your immortal soul.

Thoth will know why this is here:

Yeah. Bugger.

Serdoa's got 21 remaining horsemen in Asteroids. We have 13 units that can plausibly kill one each, plus the ghosts. Just a few more turns and we'll take a whack at it.

Fuck Whack a Mole....let's play Whack a Hippo.

Finally - looks like High Priests might actually be an option (assuming the war goes swimmingly)!

Eh? High Priests?

Haven't seen any of them since the Taliban cut off Canada's hash supply back in the late 80's.

[Mardoc]

Killed two more horsemen; the mobility ghost is heading east to try to see what Serdoa's doing besides sitting in our city waiting to die. 19 horses remain. Very soon we'll be able to crush them.

As Thoth promised, more barbs did show up - but we may have to kill them before the Baron gets a shot, if they decide to occupy our pigs. Still, it's a sign of werewolf food for the ages.

[Thoth]

On somewhat more sober thought.....

I think that if we allow human takeover for Bassium, we should also allow it for Hyborem. Bob gets Ellimist as his permanant ally....you get me as Hyborem. I don't see any cheese here. After all, you are taking the risk that I might head off on my own and try and win the game for the Infernals.

:hat:

"Iron for free" requires some form of trade route, which ain't gonna be happening any time soon. We would need either a road connection or a river/sea connection (and Fishing + Sailing).

Besides which, what makes you think I'd give you Iron for free?

Iron for Manes, sure.... We'll want to get into AV once we tech to Priesthood and get a couple of Stonewardens on the board. Then spam Warriors and hope they wind up with AV as a religion (and die ASAP )

Last night's chat on the subject:

Mardoc: I'm pretty sure Bob and I were agreeing no human hybie
much fun as it would be to have a demon vs. angel war
8 minutes
7:37 PM Mardoc: what do you think about the idea of trying to bait Serdoa to kill our newb Beastmaster?
7:38 PM me: No human hybie is fine...so long as there is no human Basium.
7:39 PM AFA tactics go....let's hold off for a turn or two
7:40 PM we want to be able to take Asteroids back when we do move. Patience. Patience. Patience.
7:41 PM Mardoc: I don't know that we're going to be able to take it in a turn, regardless
just don't have the numbers
and the ghosts' odds keep getting worse
7:42 PM huh. CV or commando or mobility for Aeron's, you think?
7:46 PM me: Attack stack on the Copper tile. Prevents an attack on PacMan. We hit Asteroids the following turn. But: we need to be able to cripple Serdoa's forces on the turns we move/attack.
7:47 PM Mardoc: no comprende, senor, on the value of camping copper
7:48 PM can't they just walk by on the hill we also roaded?
me: ?? We roaded the hill???
Mardoc: but I do agree, we can't move much from Asteroids until we can do it all
way back in prehistory. I think before we knew the copper was there, actually
me: fuck.
Mardoc: we were gonna fort it and everything
me: Screenshots were showing it unroaded
7:49 PM bugger
Mardoc: yeah. So we either need to bait Serdoa into fighting on bad terms, or else crush Asteroids in one turn
7:50 PM me: Thankfully, we can alternate a CG3 Archer/ Ranger every two turns if we have to.
Mardoc: CG3 is a thing?
I thought it stopped at CG2
me: In the meantime, lets keep killing his weak units at high odds
7:51 PM Mardoc: agreed. got one horse this turn. And really, we're close to being able to handle him
part of why I want to try the Beastmaster thing though is to get our slot opened for a better Ranger to promote
7:52 PM me: CG 3 on archers = +90% city def + 10 % melee + 25% Archer inna city + city culch defence. Damn good defence for the hammer cost.
7:53 PM We're close to being able to handle Asteroids...but we're not quite there yet. Patience. Patience.
7:54 PM Mardoc: but we gotta kill Serdoa before the angels are on the board!
7:55 PM me: ?? Why??
Mardoc: kilmorph v kilmorph equal mucho Angels
me: Ah.
7:56 PM Good thing we're going for AV then.
Doesnt' affect curent units though
Mardoc: right. unless most of the ones who are going to die have already done so
preferably the bright green suckers
7:57 PM I wanna upgrade a DS to ghost to replace the one I lost
me: Most of Serdoa's HM are pre Kill'em'orph....so no free Angels there.
Might be a plan.
Depends on odds.
7:58 PM Mardoc: CII/Formation across the river is giving 84% at the moment
me: And if Bob can Summon Basium as a Human Ded Lurker, you should be able to summon the Infernals as Me. :D
Mardoc: 'cept Hybie isn't a permanent ally
scares me
8:00 PM me: BTW: Roger Waters is fucking awesome. In an age where douchbag record companies are sueing people for copyright infringement, he went and uploaded the Wall to youtube. Fucking A man. I'll buy his products any bloody day of the week /rant
lol
Summon me. You can trust me.
So long as the agreement is signed in blood. (your's that is...)
8:01 PM Mardoc: but I need blood
me: Blood and Souls For my Lord [stirke]Arioch[/strike] Mardoc
8:02 PM hehe
Mardoc: huh, we are close - 13 Rangers/Beastmasters vs 22 Horsemen
maybe the turn Baron is born we can strike
8:03 PM me: It's a reference to Elric of Melnibone (in case you didn't get it. )
8:04 PM Mardoc: no, I'm afraid I'm ig'nant of Elric
me: Yeah, we're close. But let's not let the fair Towers of Illium burn behind our lines while we are dealing with the barbs.
bah
Mardoc: author?
8:05 PM me: Michael Moorcock.
8:06 PM Mardoc: I'll have to add him to the pile
me: http://www.amazon.com/Elric-Melnibone-1-...0441203981
If you like Amazon....
Mardoc: three turns. we can do a lot of Ghost killing with three turns
me: Yeah...just be careful.
8:07 PM Mardoc: some ghosts are more equal than others
Aeron's ought to have no trouble
C5/Formation
might have been a waste, but I don't wanna risk him
8:08 PM me: hah. Found the Wiki link for Elric. Hope I'm not Moonglum to your Elric. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melnibon%C3%A9
8:09 PM wtf? The Chronicles of Amber are an outside link for that article? Damnned good series, but nothing to do with each other.
8:10 PM Check out 9 Princes in Amber et al if you have the chance...Rodger Zelazny at his finest imo.
8:14 PM Mardoc: that's wikipedia for you
9 minutes
8:24 PM me: Wiki sucks. Elric and the Amber Chronicles rock. (in different ways...)

[Thoth]

I think we can move out and attack Asteroids next turn (t147).....3 Beastmasters + 9ish Rangers move to the Horse tile then Divide Soul and teleport to the FP town 1 E of Asteroids and attack. With the Nether Blade on one of the low exp Rangers we can expect to kill ~10 Horsemen (any HM that survive an attack can be cleaned up by our Ghosts)

It will probably take another turn to actually capture Asteroids, but with solid defences in Pacman and virtually no HM left in Asteroids to threaten us, we should be able to finally reclaim our city on t149.

[Mardoc]

Ok, so I have more reasons to not really want you to take Hyborem. I want the Gela and his cities!

And I really have no intention of making any Manes - if I build any units who aren't intended to live forever, their desired end state is Wane, not Mane. And Serdoa's got no evil religions, and Bob doesn't really either. Well, apparently OO is founded somewhere, but no one seems to be using it.

I think we can move out and attack Asteroids next turn (t147).....3 Beastmasters + 9ish Rangers move to the Horse tile then Divide Soul and teleport to the FP town 1 E of Asteroids and attack. With the Nether Blade on one of the low exp Rangers we can expect to kill ~10 Horsemen (any HM that survive an attack can be cleaned up by our Ghosts)

It will probably take another turn to actually capture Asteroids, but with solid defences in Pacman and virtually no HM left in Asteroids to threaten us, we should be able to finally reclaim our city on t149.

I think we can do better than that! Although I really ought to have read this before I played, not after - kept the Netherblade on the top Beastmaster.

He's got 18 horsemen +1 Thane left, we have the potential to attack with 4 Beastmasters, 10 Rangers, 3 Ghosts who can kill outright + 1 Ghost who can clean up wounded ones (plus potentially one more wounded Ghost if we're on the verge). Plus the Baron if we're willing to attack across the river with him instead of having him start munching orcs. That's, well, I suppose it depends on the odds. But I would be surprised if we can't get 15 kills out of that, and possibly all the way up to 17. To defend the homefront we have 3 archers, a last DS, adept, disciple, savant (almost certainly), and whatever we 1-turn next turn (archer, say?). If we can get him down to 2-3 horsemen, then even if they're super successful and all win at Asteroids, he'll just kill our archers, and we finish them the turn after.

Anyway, I played the turn. Started with discovering an annoying roadblock, that we can't clear without losing Hidden. Decided to turn the Ghost around, he's back in Asteroids land, he can at least help with cleanup duty if we lose any fights.



Killed one more horseman with Ghost, moved up healthy Ghosts, hidden, and hit end turn. A pair of happy things as a result of ending turn:


Yep, we've got the Holy City, guaranteed. And we've got the Baron with three promos in store. My first instinct is to promote him up Drill until he gets Blitz, then MobI/MobII, then over to combat in the end. His primary role is to fight as often as possible.

[Thoth]

Ok, so I have more reasons to not really want you to take Hyborem. I want the Gela and his cities!

But I have an awesome Spoiler Thread title and opening post ready to go. : pout:


No-one ever wants to summon me as Hybie. : pout:

[Tasunke]

I place my lurker vote forward to let Thoth switch into Infernals

[Thoth]

There!

Do you see that Mardoc?

Even the Lurkers want you to summon me. :hat:


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