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WW11 - Civilization

scooter wanted me to claim my role yesterday when there really was no need to, still another 2h or so to go and votes were moving away from me. His argument that the wolves knew all they needed. Seemed a very silly statement to make, either anti-town villager or obvious wolf.
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One question scooter:
scooter Wrote:Ability: Each night I can send a name in. If I get night-killed, I get to use my hari-kari abilities or whatever to "take that person with me"

To clarify: If you get nightkilled you are quaranteed to take another player with you no matter if that one attacked you or not?
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Rowain Wrote:One question scooter:


To clarify: If you get nightkilled you are quaranteed to take another player with you no matter if that one attacked you or not?

From what he said its basically whoever he chooses. Doesn't matter if its a wolf or a villager. I suppose its like a triggered vig.
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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Sareln Wrote:I want him to be innocent since that means I can nail Mardoc dead to rights and that's another wolf, Making 2 wolves in 3 days and 2 wolf-player posts to dissect looking for clues.
Only - why don't you want scooter to be guilty, so we can nail 2 wolves in 2 days, with a good likelihood of number three tomorrow?

What really confuses me, though, is that you're accusing me based on the action I regret the least, putting pressure on people and (I think, but we'll know in a few hours) fingering a wolf on day 1 with only gut feel behind me. You're not accusing me based on me letting myself be persuaded that both scooter and Ichabod were innocent, or for missing Ichabod's lynch.

I think you're working backward from 'what if scooter's innocent', and not forward from 'what does a wolf look like'. I'm pretty sure I'll be exonerated this afternoon when scooter hangs and grows fur.

Why? Well, honestly, this situation is a LOT different than your self-vote in WW1. In WW1, IIRC, you voted to save a claimed seer, and only picked yourself because you were second in line. Here, scooter's voting himself because he's doomed no matter what he does, and he's tired of fighting. It means a lot less when it's a result of quitting instead of a result of trying to save a power role.
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What I'm more scared about is if he has an ability that triggers on lynch. A fairly common wolf ability is to get a free kill chosen from those who lynch you, and that would fit right into the "Vengeance" name, a lot more than the claimed "Kill some random schmoe if you get killed" would. The suicide play he is doing at the moment would also make perfect sense, as he lures everybody in the village onto the wagon, so that he has full target selection.

It might actually be wise if Novice, as the most confirmed villager, steps off the wagon. Just in case.
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That was supposed to be in reply to the conversation about Scooters power.
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That seems rather plausible, actually. Only makes sense for the confirmed villagers to step off if we're sure scooter actually hangs, though, so as a non-confirmed, I'll commit now to leaving my vote where it is.
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Selrahc Wrote:What I'm more scared about is if he has an ability that triggers on lynch. A fairly common wolf ability is to get a free kill chosen from those who lynch you, and that would fit right into the "Vengeance" name, a lot more than the claimed "Kill some random schmoe if you get killed" would. The suicide play he is doing at the moment would also make perfect sense, as he lures everybody in the village onto the wagon, so that he has full target selection.

It might actually be wise if Novice, as the most confirmed villager, steps off the wagon. Just in case.

Watch as everybody unvotes with 5 minutes remaining. lol

The thought has struck me but at least I don't have any useful powers left. I'll take my chances.
I have to run.
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That is a possibility Selrahc the other is that he is in real the Possessed so he wouldn't care whom he takes with him if he dies at night (not so fitting the title vengenace but possible).

Your powerexplanation or him beeing Possessed would explain what bugged me abit: Why scooter (who knows how to play as wolf) would play that badly and constantly draw suspicion onto him.
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novice Wrote:Watch as everybody unvotes with 5 minutes remaining. lol

The thought has struck me but at least I don't have any useful powers left. I'll take my chances.

YOu have no power left but you are the one no doubt villager we have here. Besides the loss of you (your logic and insights) would hurt the village a lot.
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