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Werewolf 12: Game Thread

Addendum @ Meiz I'm not voting for me wink
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Sareln Wrote:@ Pling if you thought my first vote for Ichabod wasn't serious, that's your fault.

I think saying it's "my fault" is a little harsh, it was a bare vote at a time when most people weren't being serious, I'm not sure how I was supposed to tell it was serious smile

Commodore - you're not helping me think of you as less odd or as more innocent. I'm comfortable leaving my vote with you.

General note: I may or may not be back again later this evening, probably not tho.
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Anybody got a tally? I'm lost and going to bed soon.
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Lewwyn Wrote:Anybody got a tally? I'm lost and going to bed soon.

Building one, should be ready shortly.
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Mardoc Wrote:As for the current situation - maybe it's because of the number of players, but it feels like fog to me. I can't keep straight who's accusing who and for what. I do find Ichabod self-contradictory - your reason for voting me was my vagueness, and now you're castigating people for being certain of themselves?


Actually, Ichabod, I can't figure out what you're thinking at the moment. I see maybe 8 suspects on your various lists? 10? Not that I think you're a wolf, but I can't learn anything from what you're saying.

I'm as confused as you are, Mardoc. That's too much to handle right now with so much players.

I don't suspect you because you were vague. I'm probably the most vague player right now, so that would be pretty hypocrite of me. I suspected you because I felt you were taking too much precaution about your vote on pling. But that's just one thing, it doesn't mean I'm dead certain that you are a wolf.

What I'm criticizing about "players who are certain" is that being sure on day 1 can be two things:

1. You are good at fooling yourself.
2. You really want people to follow your vote, because of 1. or because you want to be able to say later: I was the one who caught the wolf. So, you try to appear certain so that people will follow you.

Of course, there's also 3. A wolf trying to replicate the behaviours mentioned above.

But overall, there was no need to say this. Wether it's true or not, it won't change the game in one bit, nor will it help the village getting wolves (maybe a bit by making people avoid tunnel vision). The big reason why I said it was because I didn't like the current lynch candidates (MNG and Rowain) and some people seemed to be "certain" about them. So I was kind of urging them to look at other points of view now that we still have time to discuss.
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Catwalk Wrote:With time ticking, I would like to suggest that we pick one of the top four candidates for tonight's lynch: Commodore, Mr. Nice Guy, Rowain and Ichabod. It's unlikely that other candidates will gain sufficient traction, especially with Europeans going to bed in a few hours.

banghead Not this again!

Catwalk, I still don't see any value in narrowing the field beyond the point where everyone in it is plausibly in danger. You were a villager last time you reasoned this way, but you're still wrong!

@Rowain - can you remind me of the connection between MNG and Zak? Because right now, I'm suspicious of MNG and not of Zak, so the connection ought to change that, either clearing MNG or making me suspicious of Zak.

@Ichabod - I grant that what you're describing is suspicious. I'm not really convinced what you're describing is what I actually did, though. But then I remember my own train of thought, which was feeling Pling was off, but not being able to explain why, not until I had worried at the problem a bit. Maybe I didn't communicate that well.
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Unofficial Tally
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Rowain (5) - Serdoa, zakalwe, Gaspar, Catwalk, Novice
Commodore (4) - Jkaen, Lewwyn, uberfish, pling
Mr. Nice Guy (3) - Injera, Rowain, Pindicator
Pindicator (3) - Ichabod, Meiz, Mardoc
Tasunke (2) - Mr. Nice Guy, Commodore
Ichabod (2) - Sareln, Tasunke
Molach (1) - Bigger

No vote - Molach

Showing Work:
Official Vote Count (191)
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Tasunke (4) - Catwalk, Gaspar, Mr. Nice Guy, pling
Commodore (4) - Jkaen, Lewwyn, Mardoc, uberfish
Ichabod (4) - Meiz, novice, Sareln, Tasunke
Mr. Nice Guy (2) - Injera, Rowain
Rowain (2) - Serdoa, zakalwe
Molach (1) - Bigger
Catwalk (1) - Commodore
pling (1) - pindicator
novice (1) - Ichabod

No vote - Molach

Changes:
  • (192) Correction; Ichabod is voting for Novice
  • (193) Serdoa votes for Rowain
  • (206) Commodore votes for Catwalk
  • (209) Gaspar votes for Rowain
  • (212) Pling votes for Commodore
  • (214) Catwalk votes for Rowain
  • (218) Pindicator votes for MNG
  • (221) Ichabod votes for Pindicator
  • (222) Commodore votes for Uberfish
  • (223) Meiz votes for Pindicator
  • (226) Serdoa votes for Rowain
  • (228) Novice votes for Rowain
  • (233) Mardoc votes for Pindicator
  • (234) Commodore votes for Ichabod
  • (234) Commodore votes for Rowain
  • (234) Commodore votes for MNG
  • (234) Commodore votes for Tasunke
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Rowain Wrote:Addendum @ Meiz I'm not voting for me wink

What, you're suggesting I... I made a mistake? Impossible I tell you!

I believe the votes atm:

Rowain (5) - Serdoa, zakalwe, Gaspar, Catwalk, novice
Commodore (4) - Jkaen, Lewwyn, uberfish, pling
Mr. Nice Guy (3) - Injera, Rowain, Pindicator
Pindicator (3) - Ichabod, Meiz, Mardoc
Ichabod (2) - Sareln, Tasunke
Tasunke (2) - Mr. Nice Guy, Commodore
Molach (1) - Bigger
pling (1) - pindicator

No vote - Molach

And this doesn't make any sense:

Catwalk Wrote:With time ticking, I would like to suggest that we pick one of the top four candidates for tonight's lynch: Commodore, Mr. Nice Guy, Rowain and Ichabod. It's unlikely that other candidates will gain sufficient traction, especially with Europeans going to bed in a few hours.
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Oh, and ignore the 2x pindicator, or make it easy for yourself and read Sareln's list :D
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pling Wrote:I think saying it's "my fault" is a little harsh, it was a bare vote at a time when most people weren't being serious, I'm not sure how I was supposed to tell it was serious smile

Commodore - you're not helping me think of you as less odd or as more innocent. I'm comfortable leaving my vote with you.

General note: I may or may not be back again later this evening, probably not tho.

You're right. Fault's a little bit harsh but reading it was feeling weird as you attributed to me ideas that I hadn't even thought :neenernee. You could see how that would bring out the harsher side alright.

Looks like there's no will for Ichabod today. I am liking Rowain more for innocent than not right now. I think it's a bit weird how MNG snapped at me earlier, so I'll vote Mr. Nice Guy.
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