Werewolf 12: Game Thread

[pling]

Oooh, that's a good start to my morning Didn't someone in a previous game do some stats & where we caught a wolf (or anti-village role like a fool) first day we always went on to win?

(Yes, it's 11am & my morning is just starting, shhhh!)

[novice]

Give me some credit, I'm a pretty good wolf.

That comment is always a 10 out of 10 on my scumdar. Anyway, after rereading, besides Gaspar I could also get behind a Commodore, Ichabod or Injera lynch. Commodore is simply acting scummish, Ichy and Injy seem to be in scumdar evasion mode. For that matter, with two wolf packs, MNG being a white wolf doesn't necessarily have much bearing on the Rowain case. And I really think Rowain's attempt to link MNG to Zak is odd.

[uberfish]

Actually fuck it, just lynch me tomorrow. I'm definitely not in the mood for this.

Glad to comply with this request

[uberfish]

I love how Gaspar claimed to not be defending MNG when in fact he did defend MNG and tried to spread fear that "we shouldn't pressure MNG because he might be a power role"

And claimed that voting for easy targets was bad while he was voting for an easy target himself

But clearly he's too good a wolf to contradict himself in this way

You diablo players could do worse than park your vote on him tomorrow.

[Rowain]

For that matter, with two wolf packs, MNG being a white wolf doesn't necessarily have much bearing on the Rowain case.

I really doubt that there are 2 packs.

[Mardoc]

I really doubt that there are 2 packs.

Why? The discussion thread said it was possible, the rules said it was possible - and MNG's PM said 'white werewolf pack'. You really think Noble would do this much misdirection?

[Lewwyn]

I really doubt that there are 2 packs.

Having us believe there aren't two packs would be good if you were in the other pack...

[Rowain]

Balance reasons

It is possible that there are 2 packs but lets look at the consequences combined with

18. A werewolf pack wins when all remaining werewolves belong to its pack and the remaining number of villagers is equal or fewer than the number of werewolves.

Usually at a game with 21 pople you have 5 wolves 16 villagers. That allows 5 mislynches to catch 5 wolves.
With 6 wolves (single pack) the village would lose with the 5th mislynch a very hard condition.

With 2 packs and rule 18 the village doesn't lose as long as there is at least 1 villager alive and members of the 2 packs.
Lets asume 2 packs a' 3 wolves. Now the village can do 7 mislynches and still win. If in the szenario only villagers die (8 mislynches 7 nightsnacks) the wolfpack that just happen to hunt at the night after the last villager died wins automatically.

2 packs a 3 wolves that don't know each other but win jointly I can imagine but with rule 18 I doubt that ther are 2 packs.

Of course NobleHelium could well have done it without thinking everything through and not noticing the consequences. In that case he can thank all gods that I'm not a wolf this time else all hell would have broken loose already .

So until I see a different pack-color I rather go with the single pack setup.

[uberfish]

I tend to think "white" werewolf implies 2 teams personally, but I guess it could be NH messing with us

[Tasunke]

While we are talking about set up, I think it would have been fun to add either a serial killer or an arsonist. (or both)