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Addendum to last post: Ichabod. Commodore has nailed my thoughts on him with his last post (and btw it really gets hard to keep track of all of you)
There are certainly more players which a case could be made against, but I have no time for that now nor do I see much sense in it as I already have at least 2 players I highly suspect by now (Tasunke, Bigger).
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Brief notes collected on a quick thread readthrough 20 minutes ago. If I bullet point them, does that make me guilty?
- I can't say that I in anyway disagree with the bus on Commodore. He really hasn't had a post that looks like he's trying yet. Knowing Commodore he does tend to fold a bit when he doesn't see a way out, though. Still I suppose my tentative vote would be on him.
- I think Rowain is either wolf or power-role. He's extra argumentative, even for him. I don't know that he's the guiltiest looking candidate thus far, but I do know that I believe the anointing of the dead as he's done with uberfish screams wolf at me.
- Tasunke - Sareln? Seriously. Seriously? Why don't you ask the group before your next track/watch/whatever if that's the best you can come up with.
- Ichabod seems off as well. He does occasionally try to play different from game to game but he reads more like WW11 Ichabod than anything else.
- novice isn't bringing his A game. Read that however you like.
- Meiz's post was interesting, but I don't generally agree with too much clearing on one vote with this many players left. I think feel works better early, evidence works better late. Sorry for those who think its somehow sanctimonious when I try to explain my thought process.
- I find it amusing that Catwalk has picked one thing in the history of ever to learn from and that's the scooter lynch.
On me:
If anyone wants anything clarified, please ask me directly. I have not gone back and re-read the night so I'm not sure what the questions out there are, other than my "defending" MNG, which I have explained several times.
I'm going to hold my vote for the moment simply because I'm not in the flow of the game. I'll re-read and vote later. I'll not vote for Commodore at least for now, based on my long-stated distaste for landslides.
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NobleHelium Wrote:Hello village, this is the Gray Werewolf Announcer. We believe there are three wolf packs.
I don't know what to think of this. I mean, certainly if whoever it is speaks true, the Grays would be the logical ones to deduce three. But...what good would sharing that do them? And why should I care, anyway - a wolf is a wolf, right?
The existence of another announcer - well, I think I'm willing to believe that proves at least a second pack exists, since Announcer seems a dud role for village, and Lynch All Liars is a village heuristic for a reason. Could be Black, lying, though.
Anyway, I'm not convinced, and I don't think I will be until we lynch a Gray werewolf. Anyone want to step up and claim credit? :neenernee
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And why would they waste one of only two Announcements on something like this?
MNG's PM, End of Day 1 Wrote:Announcer - You may send me a PM with a written message which I will then post anonymously in the thread. This ability can be used twice in the game, but cannot be used again until the next day starts.
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Official Vote Count - Day 2
~25 hours 55 minutes to the deadline
Commodore (4) - Injera, Lewwyn, novice, pling
zakalwe (2) - Bigger, Molach
Ichabod (2) - Commodore, pindicator
Rowain (2) - Jkaen, zakalwe
Sareln (1) - Catwalk
Tasunke (1) - Mardoc
Bigger (1) - Serdoa
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Mardoc Wrote:The existence of another announcer - well, I think I'm willing to believe that proves at least a second pack exists, since Announcer seems a dud role for village
Yeah, I think a third WW faction simply isn't plausible, so this would confirm a "black" announcer (or multiple white announcers? Bizarre.) What are they trying to gain by this?
I find it interesting they used "gray" as opposed to "grey".
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History
- Mardoc votes pling (1)
- pindicator votes Ichabod (1)
- Lewwyn votes commodore (1)
- Injera votes commodore (2)
- Bigger votes commodore (3)
- Jkaen votes Rowain (1)
- zakalwe votes Rowain (2)
- Molach votes zakalwe (1)
- novice votes Rowain (3)
- Catwalk votes Sareln (1)
- Commodore votes Mardoc (1)
- pling votes Commodore (4)
- novice switches from rowain (3->2) to commodore (5)
- Serdoa votes commodore (6)
- Bigger switches from Commodore (6->5) to zakalwe (2)
- Mardoc switches from pling (1->0) to Tasunke (1)
- Serdoa switches from Commodore(5->4) to Bigger (1)
- Commodore switches from Mardoc(1->0) and ends up at Ichabod (2)
annd with that Good Night
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Addendum Not voting so dfar:
Gaspar Rowain Sareln Ichabod Meiz Tasunke
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Perhaps it is my ego talking but it seems awfully coincidental that the Announcement is timed to go along with my return to the thread.
I strongly suspect 2 wolf packs. Grey/Gray is pretty meaningless. There's no reason to believe that Grey/White can't be the two any more/less than Black/White or Red/White or Pink Polka Dot/White. Even if there is a 3rd I'm not sure how that changes the calculus for the village.
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Injera Wrote:Yeah, I think a third WW faction simply isn't plausible, so this would confirm a "black" announcer (or multiple white announcers? Bizarre.) What are they trying to gain by this?
I find it interesting they used "gray" as opposed to "grey".
Yesterday was Picnic Day @ UCD. Awesome, but spent all my time out in the sun instead of inside on the computer. Will have to catch up after church/dinner later tonight, but some quick reactions.
Tasunke camping me is pretty laughable. I think I'm holding enough of my usual suspicion to be a very unlikely wolf-target night one. I think it tracks pretty well with his performance last game though, so I don't think it's suspicious, just not good.
Commodore is looking pretty bad, and it's made worse 'cause he's not fighting it very hard.
Injera, that's an interesting point about language in the above. NH is American iirc, so the gray/grey differential might be a language tell. Or someone is being very clever.
Also, props to Pindicator for the chart. The hour analysis is a useful thing to add, I might have to add that to my own notes as well.
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