Werewolf 12: Game Thread

[Gaspar]

Welcome, Bigger. Welcome to the Lewwyn Experience®.

[NobleHelium]

Official Vote Count - Day 2
~18 hours 48 minutes to the deadline

Commodore (3) - Injera, novice, pling
Ichabod (3) - Commodore, pindicator, Tasunke
zakalwe (2) - Bigger, Molach
Rowain (2) - Jkaen, zakalwe
Bigger (2) - Serdoa, Lewwyn
Sareln (1) - Catwalk
Tasunke (1) - Mardoc

[Serdoa]

Come now Serdona - targetting me didn't work for MNG, why would you assume it will work for your tribe?
I think there is enough suspicion on you for me not to be afraid of your accusations, but for the sake of clarification, and the realk villagers reading this:

I have not played WW before. I have read WW 7 from start to finish, read WW 11 from start to finish and lurked it, and perused 3 other WW's (just skipping to the votes and night kills). I also love social games (diplomacy, machevelli, survivor) and I understand how this works - and from my past readings have a decent reading on some of the regular players. I still consider myself green, but I think that puts me ahead of Commodore and Pindicator, and maybe a couple of others too.

As for the second paragraph - I think Rowain's logic on this point is solid, that's all. If you remember, I followed him on MNG and zak, but not onto Gasper.

early day 1 wolf on wolf voting seems to me like a very strong misdirection - there are so many votes flying around day 1 of day 1 that nothing is likely to stick, and villagers will look back on it in later days and distance the two wolves - so that if one is lynched, the other may get a free pass and be judged village. But it has to do be done carefully. Zak is a careful and prudent player, I think, and the strategy itself was not a mistake. But MNG is not - he was wild and reckless, and panicky, it seems, and MNG's mistakes have revealed Zak.

Zak is my top suspect. Commodore and Serdona are pretty neck and neck for 2 and 3, but I'm keeping my vote on Zak for now.

This post is interesting. It is the first post I see from you with a plethora of errors in it (my name being one of it). I think someone got nervous and wanted to write a quick answer before others voted for him too eh?

Anyway, as for the actual content of your post. Over-confidence at the beginning. But not much meat. I mean honestly "Don't target me, I got MNG lynched as well"? Yawn. Even better is your part about there being enough suspicion on me that you don't need to fear my accusations. Excuse me, since when would you not take accusations serious if they are not made up? Even if I would be a wolf it wouldn't matter, you could easily be from another tribe. So no matter my alignment, stating what you did is just plain silly from a logical point of view. So, are you silly or a wolf?

Last point: Early Day 1 wolf on wolf voting might happen - using it as misdirection? With 21 players? Do you have any idea how many votes are flying around at that time? Anyone who gives a shit about a vote done on Day1 in the first 24-48 hours (depending on day lenght) is just grasping for straws.

[novice]

Official Vote Count - Day 2
~18 hours 48 minutes to the deadline

Commodore (3) - Injera, novice, pling
Ichabod (3) - Commodore, pindicator, Tasunke
zakalwe (2) - Bigger, Molach
Rowain (2) - Jkaen, zakalwe
Bigger (2) - Serdoa, Lewwyn
Sareln (1) - Catwalk
Tasunke (1) - Mardoc

So this is what a landslide look like?

Tasunke, your use of the watcher role is really unimpressive. It reminds me of Roland's spam when he was a werewolf and Sareln's usage of his kill-block power in WW11. In both cases I initially wrote it off as incredibly bad village play before realizing scumminess was a more credible explanation. Couple this with your early claim and reluctance to answer questions, and you're next on my "to lynch" list.

Commodore.

[zakalwe]

Not much time today either, because the kids are sick. But I finally managed to do a little rereading, and made it through the first 11 pages. Based on those, I have concluded that Bigger must be a pack-mate of MNG. I'll see if I can post a more elaborate reasoning for that later, but for now that is my conclusion.

Novice, are you invoking a double-vote here?

[Jkaen]

Plenty of time yet for it all to twist around. Still trying to get my head round all the implications of the wolf alert, gut says its false but I need to work out the why of it all

[zakalwe]

Plenty of time yet for it all to twist around. Still trying to get my head round all the implications of the wolf alert, gut says its false but I need to work out the why of it all

Agree that it's probably false, in that there are only two packs. There is evidently not just one, since two announcers on the same team would be a little bizarre, on top of all the other indicators. As for why... who cares. Some sort of misdirection, I guess.

[Gaspar]

Interested to hear the reasoning on Bigger. Don't care much at all about the announcement.

[NobleHelium]

Official Vote Count - Day 2
~17 hours 2 minutes to the deadline

Commodore (3) - Injera, novice, pling
Ichabod (3) - Commodore, pindicator, Tasunke
Bigger (3) - Serdoa, Lewwyn, zakalwe
zakalwe (2) - Bigger, Molach
Rowain (1) - Jkaen
Sareln (1) - Catwalk
Tasunke (1) - Mardoc

[Injera]

Agree that it's probably false, in that there are only two packs. There is evidently not just one, since two announcers on the same team would be a little bizarre, on top of all the other indicators. As for why... who cares. Some sort of misdirection, I guess.

I've been thinking about this a lot, actually, and the implications of it, which is leading me to stay on Commodore. I think it's potentially significant. I'd love to hear your Bigger theory.

Also, novice, why did you list the vote count and then vote for the same person you're already voting for? Seems a bit careless...