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Ichabod Wrote:Having both a watcher and a vowyer in the village side seems a bit difficult...
This was my primary concern ... but IF Bigger is also village, then this line of thinking would just get 2 mislynches for no real gain of information.
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Ah, crossposted with Ichabod's latest post.
Well, assuming Bigger falls I'd say its 50/50 on whether he is a wolf or not.
I think Commodore may be a bit more likely, but meh.
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Tasunke Wrote:This was my primary concern ... but IF Bigger is also village, then this line of thinking would just get 2 mislynches for no real gain of information.
Well, the village could have a watcher (you) and the wolves have a vowyer (bigger is one of them). I actually don't suspect you, Tasunke. I suspect Bigger more (the case against him is pretty good even without the Watcher/Vowyer info).
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By my count its
10 - Commodore
5 - Bigger
1 - Jkaen
1 - Mardoc
Sareln still not voting. And one I am missing simply.
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Sareln Wrote:Giving the thread a quick read, I think we should follow through and lynch Commodore today. Claimed roles from Bigger and Tasunke (however inartfully used) can be tested. If either is a wolf, they're stuck for the rest of the game using their claimed powers in ++village mode or run the risk of getting caught out in the lie. I feel a lot better about Ichabod now that he's started playing.
@ Serdoa, I'm voting Commodore.
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Yeah, guess I'll need to comment on things earlier in this game, because we seem to be going for another quiet lynch deadline. It's so similar to last day that maybe Commodore is a wolf after all.
But I think lynching bigger give us more information.
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Sareln Wrote:@ Serdoa, I'm voting Commodore.
Sorry, overlooked it I guess. I skimmed simply the last 6 pages after NHs latest count looking for red. And its 23:00 here, so eyes are tired.
Anyway, I'll keep on Bigger in case more want to join us because I still think he is the better target, but I'm happy with a Commodore lynch as well.
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Mardoc Wrote:Huh? What do I care if they're a power role? I care if they're a wolf, or not. If they're a wolf and a power role, then I *want* them to bite it! And if I think it's going to be a mislynch, I don't want to mislynch any villager, not just try to minimize damage by mislynching someone weak.
The only reason I don't want to try Jkaen is that I don't think we can extract any information from him with only three hours left and him already near or past bedtime.
...well, and perhaps a bit of believing we've got likelier wolves already on the block.
Quoting this so I don't forget about it... I'm filing this in my scum tell cabinet, under the "deliberately dense" category.
I will also stay on Bigger, passing the buck to whoever remains on-line for the last three hours.  Though it looks like a consensus has been reached.
If you know what I mean.
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I got free wifi at the airport. have to board in 20.
I'm going to make one more point for my innocence. Frankly, I'm surprised no one has analyzed my day 2 voting patterns.
1. I start the early bandwagon on Commodore (I was either the first or 2nd to vote for him, don't remember).
2. He has 6 votes and its looking to be a runaway, then I switch over to Zak. Note, Rowain has made no arguments for Zak on day 2, I was on my own. Then I stuck w/ Zak despite getting no traction, other than 1 vote by Mardoc.
3. Once I got on the block, it was pretty even 3 way between me, commodore, and ichabod. I switched back to commodore.
note: If I was wolf, I would either be in the same tribe as commodore, or a different tribe. If I was in a different tribe, there is no way I would have ever switched off commodore. he was going down quicker than MNG in day 1.
If I was on the same tribe as commodore, then BOTH of us would have switched to ichabod a few pages back when he was still a possible lynch candidate.
My day 2 behavior is ridiculously unrational if I am scum. It may be good play or poor play, I'll let you judge that - but it is clearly town.
as for the coordination between me and Tasunke - I'm not sure how that would work and how we would do it, and I'm hesistant because Tasunke says he has limited uses, but if there is a consensus I'm willing to do it.
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My final vote for today:
Commodore
Best case: another wolf down
Worst case : A villager who has more or less already checked out and has no PR
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