Commodore Wrote:Heh. Nicely distanced there, sir, you're taking that bullet very nicely for your senior wolf.So you're saying you do have a role? Pray tell. Even if you're a wolf, don't be shy...
We'll have plenty of data to start that wolf hunt, 'aight, Tasunke.
So a funny story about that null role claim. I actually somehow missed it in Noble's PM. I realize that sounds kind of absurd and like a complete and total lie, but it's true.
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Werewolf 12: Game Thread
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Commodore Wrote:Heh. Nicely distanced there, sir, you're taking that bullet very nicely for your senior wolf. Commodore, you really do seem to be grasping at straws.  So what will your next role-based lie be this time? Are you a seer? 
zakalwe Wrote:About the potential for three wolf packs; I agree it seems unlikely, I also believe that the announcement was a clear attempt at misdirection, and I'm pretty sure I have voiced those opinions earlier. That doesn't stop me from speculating about why Ichabod behaves like he does, and it struck me that knowing the kill order would be a critical piece of information, which would explain why he is so adamant about the order in which people should hang. In retrospect, I think that line of thought is equally valid in a two-pack setup, but when I first thought about it, it was in the context of three packs, so that's why it came out the way it did. I don't think your argument that the first person to consider a three pack scenario must be a wolf is a very good one. Any reason why you first talk directly to Ichabod, switch in the middle to talking ABOUT Ichabod and then switch back to talk to him directly again? I mean maybe thats some English thing I am not getting? Because for me it sounds awfully like something that was discussed back and forth with someone else before it got posted and therefore stuff got mixed up a little bit. Commodore Wrote:So a funny story about that null role claim. I actually somehow missed it in Noble's PM. I realize that sounds kind of absurd and like a complete and total lie, but it's true. So you know all that stuff I said about how we could wait on lynching Commodore b/c then if the wolves turn over a vanilla villager in the night he's cleared and we don't risk the mislynch? Yeah... toss that out. The Ichabod push has been interesting and I think it has drawn a lot of good discussion out, but that latest means it has to be Commodore today. Commodore. Serdoa Wrote:Any reason why you first talk directly to Ichabod, switch in the middle to talking ABOUT Ichabod and then switch back to talk to him directly again? I mean maybe thats some English thing I am not getting? Because for me it sounds awfully like something that was discussed back and forth with someone else before it got posted and therefore stuff got mixed up a little bit. That's an artifact of composing the post (somewhat hurriedly, this time) in a text editor, pasting in the right quotes and deciding which order the various paragraphs should come in. That's how I always write my posts, unless they are just a few lines short. Whenever a paragraph follows a quote, I change the pronoun to "You", since I'm replying to the quote. So I guess I shuffled some sentences around there, or added the quote after I wrote the text, or something. Not sure. Nice to know you're reading my posts carefully, though. 
If you know what I mean.
Catwalk Wrote:Sareln, did you assume it was probable that there was a vanilla villager who just didn't feel like saving Commodore? Possible. But a possibility that would resolve with time without needing further input from us. Commodore had garnered enough suspicion onto himself before he made his claim that I think that a vanilla villager would be quite careful of revealing to clear him, since it gives more information to the wolf team(s). A villager who announces vanilla to clear Commodore effectively reduces the pool that the wolves are shooting into for village power-roles by 2 (Power-roles lying to save Commodore are playing a huge gambit, charitably speaking). Revealing saves Commodore for the moment but doesn't rule out him being a wolf. Balance those considerations and I could easily see multiple vanilla villagers coming to the conclusion that it's not worth it to save Commodore. But that's all mooted now since Commodore is no longer saying he's a vanilla villager. So we can't clear him implicitly when another vanilla villager turns up dead from a night phase. So now to determine guilt or innocence needs more action from us. Hence, why now, Commodore has got to go today. zakalwe Wrote:That's an artifact of composing the post (somewhat hurriedly, this time) in a text editor, pasting in the right quotes and deciding which order the various paragraphs should come in. That's how I always write my posts, unless they are just a few lines short. Whenever a paragraph follows a quote, I change the pronoun to "You", since I'm replying to the quote. So I guess I shuffled some sentences around there, or added the quote after I wrote the text, or something. Not sure. Nice to know you're reading my posts carefully, though. Reading that... did we have that conversation in another WW-game already? I seem to remember something like that. Meiz Wrote:Said that his initial vote against MNG was even more meaningful than the 6-4 vote. But his initial reason was: "So I'll go with Mr. Nice Guy, for trying to discredit my UFO discovery.". That was intended as a humorous way of saying "Mr. Nice Guy, for voting for me." - which, incidentally, was the same reason given by Uberfish and Rowain. (Injera's vote was just a joke vote at that point.) The rest of your post revolves a lot around me and MNG being on the same team. I have defended against that accusation before, and I don't think I can add much to it. Just consider if you really think day 1 would have played out as it did if that was the case. I think the accusation is a bit inconsistent with all the "pied piper" and "cat herder" characterizations that are thrown my way. Meiz Wrote:I thought his argument against commodore was weak, http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthrea...post241558 Do you think Commodore is a lone wolf? Could he not be in a pack with one or more experienced players, and argue internally that they should play a high-risk game?
If you know what I mean.
Serdoa Wrote:Reading that... did we have that conversation in another WW-game already? I seem to remember something like that.In WW7 Scooter got in trouble for leaving evidence of copy/pasting to and from gmail in his posts. He said he used gmail for its autosave capability and most of us bought his explanation (at least I did). Is that what you're thinking about? Or something involving me, specifically?
If you know what I mean.
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