Werewolf 13: Lurker Thread [No Live Players]

[Serdoa]

@novice What Rowain says. And my post was a response to Molach. I didn't want to imply that Bigger is upset (sorry, bad worded on my part I guess).

And I am also stunned by Tasunkes play Rowain. I'm not sure what to think about that post, but I think your description was pretty accurate

@lewwyn Haven't said it till now, but I enjoyed the game. I think I would have it enjoyed as plain villager as well, but I can understand why some feel that they can't have an impact on the game as plain villager. The setup leads to such a fast game that you certainly can get overwhelmed by every-day new relevations. Add to that the mass of quiet villagers we had this game plus at least 2 villagers who did set themselves up for mislynches already on Day 1 and finally the "nuclear war" between Shorts and Fats and you quickly get to the point where you as a villager just has to vote, as there is no discussion needed about whom to lynch (D1: Bob, D3: Rowain, D4: zak, D5: Bigger [imo]). And that is something that certainly can become frustrating.

[novice]

Yeah, Tasunke doesn't seem to be paying much attention...

Would be interesting to see what MNG is thinking but doesn't dare saying.

[zakalwe]

Tell me where did that happen?
If you mean my action against you then please take note that both your team and my team still had intact chances afterwards. That is until your team (Bigger alone or on your urging) decided to really throw away any chances.

Let's just say that I think a little humility goes a long way in any post-game discussion. I wouldn't be so quick to criticize Bigger's play, if I were you. Then again, I'm not you. I guess I shouldn't blame you for staying in character.

[Rowain]

Then again, I'm not you.

You should try harder to become perfect (= me) :neenernee

[uberfish]

On a side note, Sareln posting very little content and coasting to endgame because no one can be bothered to kill him is getting annoying.

[Rowain]

On a side note, Sareln posting very little content and coasting to endgame because no one can be bothered to kill him is getting annoying.

Well it is the task of the village to pressure (and lynch) the silent /absent players. But the days 1, 3, 4 (and today) had other people screaming lynch me .

Besides to really make this stand out there needs to be a discussion going but since the lynching of Zakalwe (45 hours in the past) there have been only 38 posts in total. And from this 10 were from nightkilled villagers, Selrahc or Lewwyn. From the remaining 28 - 17 are from Bigger and thestick and only 11 posts from the other 4 and that includes several GG-posts as well.

[Molach]

LaL...Leave all Lurkers is dangerous in WW, yes.

By the way, the backstabbing & betrayal was mostly for humorous/alliterational effect. The packs were enemies from start. So it's just to say that rowain made the first WoW move, agree that is not backstabbing as there was no alliance. Although Biggers betrayal of 'the wolf cause' is kinda correct, if there is such a thing.

However don't think village will go for it, also because he has been lying a bit, anyone should now be able to figure out that he did not scan Sareln. And he first says he knows who the last wolf is and then later says he is 99% sure.

Some good things about his post: It was after a 6-pack, respect. He also says to end the day if MNG doesn't switch, that is something to consider IF every player agree. Day is over once MNG decides, it's the night is important. Because it matters little who they lynch at this point as long as it is a wolf.

I also think village may win without Bigger help too.
After lynch we face 3-1-1.

Now double village kill means 1-1-1.
At this point some things can happen.
Villager is silverblood, votes anyone, means draw game. Unless both wolves vote villager, which also means draw.
Villager is mayor, he can vote himself, game is draw.
He votes favourite wolf/rolls a die. One pack wins (50%). But who do you think he will hand the game to? thestick? I'd give it to other wolf, as reward of staying hidden. So mabye less than 50% for thestick for that reason.

Both wolves target same player (MNG): 2-1-1. This is quite likely, I think. Neither can afford him alive, and he cartainly isn't a silverblood so safe to eat
Villagers vote to lynch the known wolf (thestick?). 2-1
They can vote a villager for mayor. (somehow?) At least 50% chance. thestick is facing lynch, will he back other wolf or villager (Do a *bigger*) for mayor? Does he even know who is who? Do villagers know? Endgame situation here, and finally nothing concrete to go on. If the silverblood get elected mayor, we WIN. 25% chance, then? If therewere 2 silverbloods and 3 sleepers, we lynch Lewwyn next.

So the deep cover wolf might be better off killing thestick last night, and hoping for a mislynch. Don't know if it's possible, who IS the wolf among injera, tasunke and sareln? If he thinks he can confidently turn the endgame (with better than 50% probablility) he should consider killing thestick. And then perhaps thestick feels the same way, and returns the favor. Or perhaps thestick assumes mystery wolf will kill MNG, and then decides to kill another villager and hits mystery wolf instead. Or silverblood, in which case it is 50% village-wolf win, whoever becomes mayor (and remembers to vote opponent)

Whew.

[Rowain]

So it's just to say that rowain made the first WoW move,

The funny thing is that I didn't know it was a WoW move. I didn't know Biggers or Zaks true colors.

[waterbat]

I mean novice su hush hush waterbat

haha, i was avoiding all those spoilers - half the reason was I didnt want to say something dumb again - the other half i really didn't want to know

But... i caught up now because i was curious if there was any information about my own pack in there.

My nightkill predictions were pretty good, the only one i got wrong was my own pack, i thought eventually they would hit MNG even though there was a chance of a double kill on him.

Assuming he doesn't get nightkilled, I think the inactive Tasunke decides the game after bigger and the stick are dead.

oh and speaking of MNG and inactive villagers....
COME ON MNG YOU HAVE 1 MINUTE TO LOCK IT IN

[Rowain]

Assuming he doesn't get nightkilled, I think the inactive Tasunke decides the game after bigger and the stick are dead.

for waterbat

and with that you have either just confirmed that Injera is the last wolf or you are a clever trickster who loves to lay wrong trails even in the Lurkerthread