WW14 - The Edge of Reason

[Rowain]

Maybe it's better tactic for a wolf to collect goodie points by defending players in the beginning?

I didn't defend anyone. I only found it strange that pind would attack a new player right away.

So why are you misreading me Meiz?

[Jkaen]

Ok, thought it may have been but wanted to check it was a post restriction, Novice seems currently to back up that post restrictions are in play, so I will let things ride for now

However I agree with Meiz that Rowain did seem to leap to the defense of VM a big enthusiastically, which at this point in the day I find suspicious

[Lewwyn]

@VM, Novice, other post-restricted players: Do you also have to obey these restrictions in the wolf thread?

@Lewwyn, I think your case against Meiz is pretty weak. What's wrong with being eager to prosecute?

Meiz

I see what you did there...

Kidding aside, I do think its a bit on the weaker side, but its too early to ignore things that stick out to me.

My point was, I'm not going to assume post restriction = villager. That would seem quite odd from balancing point of view. Impossible to say for sure, but I'd assume the post restrictions would be quite random regardless of the alignment. For voting VM, I saw no harm in concentrating votes since I have no baseline from his game.

I actually agree with the idea that we cannot assume post restriction = villager. I had an issue with the way you presented that in a subtle and obfuscating way that also planted an additional seed of doubt against anyone with a post restriction.

[VM]

W3 n33d m04r ppl n th Rwin wgn.

S t bttr f \ jst drp th vwls? Dnt thnk s.

[Jkaen]

W3 n33d m04r ppl n th Rwin wgn.

S t bttr f \ jst drp th vwls? Dnt thnk s.

Nope doesn't help, keep with standard L33t I think

[slowcheetah]

Vote count

Rowain (3) - Meiz Novice VM
Mattimeo (2) - Injera Molach
Meiz (2) - Bigger Lewwyn
VM (2) - Jkaen Pindicator
Bigger (1) - Zakalwe
Novice (1) - Sareln
Pindicator (1) - Rowain

Not voting - Mattimeo Twinkletoes89 Waterbat

Looks like I am the forgotten man


Onto my thoughts, I actually think that Rowain's defense of VM was pretty reasonable, the post restriction isnt yet indicative of him being a wolf or villager and he was immediately under attack after the third post with nothing else that could be considered a tell. Sure if he'd gone a day and only said that one thing then pressure seems justified, but I think Rowains point was fair.

Attacking the new guy when he gives wolftells? - yes
attacking him when he doesn't show up during the first 24 hours? - yes
but attacking with the third post in the whole thread a mere hour after the game started is a bit on the unfriendly side

There seems to be the beginnings of a bandwagon forming on Rowain entirely due to this point. Jumping from Bandwagon to Bandwagon seems pretty wolfy to me and the most recent person on Rowain is Jkaen

[VM]

B1gg3r 1s tw1ce 4s l1k3ly t0 b3 SK 4s 4nyon3 3ls3, b3c4us3 h3 m3nt1on3d Sk f1rst.

[Jkaen]

I agree with Zak and others that that statement in the rules is just standard terms, and I dont think we can read too much into it.

[zakalwe]

I wasn't worried about losing, I am just bored with multiple pack set ups.

Fair enough.

W3 n33d m04r ppl n th Rwin wgn.

I'm not convinced that we do. Do you want to elaborate?

I suggest lynching Twinkletoes.

I don't like how he went from "lets not think of voting him off just because of his possible post restriction" in his first post to "getting bored of making one up already?" in his second post. It's not exactly a contradiction, but it's a notable change in tone.

[Lewwyn]

B1gg3r 1s tw1ce 4s l1k3ly t0 b3 SK 4s 4nyon3 3ls3, b3c4us3 h3 m3nt1on3d Sk f1rst.

Disagree. I actually think the opposite.