WW14 - The Edge of Reason

[Jkaen]

In less serious though lines, wish I had seen the background before we started

... residents have long sinced stopped calling it anything other than "The Village."...

... it attracts plenty of eccentrics... ...is a pretty tolerant place...

Obvious roleplay possiblities there

[Jkaen]

So you still find my post voting for pind as suspicious wolf-behavior I think you are trying desperatly to look village.


@VM:
Why do you believe that novice and Jkaen are obv. village? Since you have chosen to ignore it so far maybe i can get your attention now:
VM

Yes I do,

All your 'the world is out to get me' revenge voting I find in character, but that still strikes me as odd

[Rowain]

Yes I do,

All your 'the world is out to get me' revenge voting I find in character, but that still strikes me as odd

Do you have any real arguments? Oh and you might not lioke it but my vote for you is not a revenge vote. But based on the reasons I staed before and backed by the fact that you misred your timestamp in your first try to deflect my vote.
Be happy that VM does not explain his 'obv. villager' comment and has earned my vote for now. OTOH since he has you in the obv. village list he might persuade me to not vote for you.

[Jkaen]

Rowain,

I have put forward a real argument, your over defense of VM, just because you dont like the argument doesnt change it.

Look can't be bothered arguing this with you as once you have made up your mind on something you dont seem to shift it

[Rowain]

Rowain,

I have put forward a real argument, your over defense of VM, just because you dont like the argument doesnt change it.

Look can't be bothered arguing this with you as once you have made up your mind on something you dont seem to shift it

An argument which was a lie to start with.As I did not defend VM. And you are the right one to talk about mind-shifting. I do remember well WW3 where you stubbornly continued to kill everyone on your mostlikely wolf-list despite the fact that anyone on it was innocent including me.

[Rowain]

To add: You switched your vote onto me after I voted Meit. and looking at your list of susopicious posts I see zaks post votes for Meiz and Biggers post includes a Meiz-vote too.

Strange isn't it.

[waterbat]

since Waterbat apparently won't address it anyway.

I will address it. I have addressed it. I didn't like the response I got, so I left my vote. VM got the same response - now he's the target of Bigger's vote. When I was wolf and was accused ( by seemingly random suspcions ), the first thing I wanted to do was strike back at the person. I think I did it twice in WW12. Now we have the same pattern with Bigger - 2x striking back at the accusers.

This passage assumes that all lurkers are innocent. He says: What good does it do to vote for a lurker, as all you might accomplish would be making a bandwagon for scum to hide on. So maybe Waterbat happens to know that there are no lurking scum in this game, and thus jumped to the conclusion that the proper pro-town stance should be to not pressure lurkers. Rather than thinking about the issue of lurkers in general, he made the mistake of extrapolating directly from what he knows about this specific game.

This is a very good observation. If I wasn't the suspect in question, I admit - I'd be swayed by it. This kind of post that shows great hunting skills is why I do lean villager toward you Zak. But - unfortunately I believe you are just as capable of making this argument as a wolf.

When it comes to Zak, there appears to be no one better at tunnelling onto one person and reaming them for all they are worth. If he is village, I do believe that todays events - including his latching onto me - as positive. I will be less likely to be nightkilled as there is dirt on me. Zak will also be less likely to be night killed as he is currently doing the wolves' job for them - so why kill?

Hmm this is quite a different game with 1 pack - I guess it doesnt matter if some villagers are less likely to be nightkilled - one of our innocents is going to die

[pindicator]

Also Pidicators buddying up on Zak seemed a bit strange, http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=119
Especially part: His post early on about if the posting restrictions have to be done in the wolf thread just seems like he's trying to bait people into voting him. Well, trying to get people talking, even if they are voting against him.

If he thought that would be Zak's villager strategy, wouldn't he rather keep quiet instead of saying it out loud for the wolves? Maybe the idea is what he was thinking on Zak's messages, as a wolf.

Don't know if you're intentionally mis-reading here (haven't you been accused of doing that already by someone else?) or if you're just quickly going through and not reading context. If you look at that zak post again you'll him get laughed at about it by Bigger and Lewwyn shortly after. So to claim that I saw through and ruined his grand plan is distorting what happened.

His attack on Jkaen seemed a bit forced. And going for the popular target as well (me that is ), http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=137

Yep, I didn't have much there - just a feeling that jkaen wasn't contributing much discussion and buddying up with other people. I'm getting a bit frustrated at how hard it is to get people to answer questions.

I think jkaen is a little lower down as far as wolf vibes. You're giving me quite a few So is VM. I don't like this whole "we have to bandwagon Bigger" line of thought because it seems anybody who wants to explore other options is immediately branded a wolf. I'm willing to let it slide for VM for now because novice has experience playing in other sites and he has said that this is normal wolf hunting elsewhere.

Speaking of Jkaen, he points out this post as why Bigger is suspicious. I don't see it; someone want to dumb it down for me? Or are there other posts?

I gotta run to work. The 2pm local time deadline isn't helping

[pindicator]

Whoops, that 2nd quote box is a mistake. I was going to quote the post and then I decided to link to it instead and turns out I messed both up.

[waterbat]

Viewing the ISO is not all that convenient, unfortunately.

Hate to have to take issue with yet another post by zak, but i have to take issue with someone's in order to get this posted.

Viewing an isolation is easy with my special tool for doing so:

ww14 iso tool

please - this is not an efficient tool - it basically hits all the pages of the thread each time you do it. so don't just sit there clicking away.

Also - as we add pages to the thread here , i have to update it manually. i.e. right now it only does pages 1-21. It will continue to do so unless I update it.