WW14 - The Edge of Reason

[Bigger]

I can see that point on Injera, but not Slowcheetah. He was always at least my #2 suspect, and I called him out early in the day before he was even on the block.

anyway, your scumdar is broken. If and when I lynch vegetarian werewolf, village friendly, will you then go after Rowain?

[Bigger]

Looking over the most vocal suspicions, it seems like Pindicator wants us to lynch Bigger, who wants us to lynch Rowain, who wants us to lynch Pindicator.

My theory is that two of the people in this love triangle are innocent, and one is scum. Specifically, Pindicator and Rowain are innocent, and we should lynch Bigger, because he actively supported the Twinkletoes wagon that might have saved Injera, and because he has taken every opportunity to repeat his alleged suspicions against Slowcheetah, while making every possible excuse to actually vote for someone else. Perhaps most revealingly towards the end of day 3, with only one hour left on the clock.

In post 706, after Pindicator initiated a sudden rush on Rowain, the tally was:

Bigger (5) - Molach Rowain Slowcheeath Waterbat Sareln
Slowcheetah (4) - Bigger Jkaen Mattimeo Novice
Rowain (2) - Pindicator Zakalwe
Pindicator (1) - Twinkletoes

The next vote to be cast was in post 715, where Bigger switched from Slowcheetah to Rowain. In doing so, he actually put himself further in the lead. If he really suspected Slowcheetah as much as he kept insisting, he would never make this move.

Bigger

and here's another hole in your theory - slowcheetah never left me to join on Rowain, even when there was a 4-4-4 tie. In fact, neither Injera nor Slowcheetah ever voted for or cast much suspicion on Rowain.

Are you going to reveal your posting restriction, or keep it a secret?

[waterbat]

Actually, i have quite enjoyed his chicken votes. *And whatever wolf chickened him did us a favor, imo

Well, I obviously take issue with that second part.... Sort of. Why do you say that, pindicator?

Hey Ichabod! *That's how you lynch an Injera-wolf!

Slowcheetah... *Do you have my nose?

My one ASCII about the nose and slowcgeetah referenced the above post. * I was thinking that llewyn had directly asked if slowcgeetah had his nose, so assuming this was indicating who he would investigate, I figured he got a negative ( non-wolf) result, since he went after Pindicator. * * After cheetah turned up fur, I went back and realized that llewyn was probably awaiting the result when he got whacked.*

why didn't you post during night action processing

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I don't think this would be right - TT could be dead and just didn't know it yet.*

As far as who to lynch, I accidentally voted early in *last night's ill-conceived post.*

I think if we pay attention to what people have done, rather than what people have said, Rowain makes a good case against bigger. *

But what of llewyn's near deathbed Provlamation on Pindicator? *I thought it was pretty good, but goes all but forgotten in the village. *I'll put my vote on Pindicator for now

Obviously, no kill is a great result for the village! *Is someone going to claim responsibility today? Whoever protected should be able to clear the protectee, no?

Bigger, *I think pointing out the fact that people never voted for others known dead wolves is silly. *It's more likely at some point that wolves would have voted for other wolves for cover. *Not deciding votes, ofc.*

I've been restricted to iPhone posts since Sunday. *You could add that as a third post restriction as it was quite hard to respond. I lost a few posts too

[pindicator]

Had a little time to skim stuff after the potluck. I am a bit worried about confirmation bias, so I'd like to see some conversation on alternate theories.

Still, I'm on board with Bigger

@Waterbat - I said what I did about the wolves doing us a favor because it got me off your case and onto slowcheetah. The combination of lewwyn's argument (and subsequent death) plus your chicken-izing, made me realize i should go elsewhere for day 3. Although I see that's still not enough to convince some people I'm on the village side. guess I'll have to get another one today and maybe people will start believing in me.

Almost fireworks time

[Bigger]

Pindicator - consider this:

There are 4 plausible lynch candidates atm, imo. You, me, Rowain & Waterbat. There are probably 2 wolves left among that group.

You and I have been all over each other since the end of day 2. Both of us have also suspected Rowain and Waterbat at various times and even voted for them. Waterbat has never even suspected Rowain and has never voted for him; Rowain has mentioned suspecting waterbat (as well as pretty much everyone else in the game at one point) but never voted for him. Further, they are the only 2 that never voted for Injera OR Slowcheetah.

I'm going to keep riding that train until it's proven wrong.
Barring something really drastic and unexpected, my vote will stay on Rowain or waterbat today. Rowain is my preference.

Pindicator, what do you think of this? I hope a (possibly faked) post-restriction isn't the only thing that can make you lose your tunnel-vision. I'm fairly convinced of your innocence right now (unless waterbat is lynched village, which I do not think will happen), so I really hope a Bigger-Pindicator runoff can be avoided.

[Bigger]

Although I see that's still not enough to convince some people I'm on the village side. guess I'll have to get another one today and maybe people will start believing in me.

also, you should (and matt, and maybe others) should be concerned less about this and more about discovering wolfs. this isn't survivor, you can get mislynched and still win, you can survive until the end and still lose.

[Jkaen]

Going to go for Bigger, mainly based on pindicators trap results

[Mattimeo]

In the interest in providing mroe information, even if its usefulness is arguable:

I'm Jailkeeper. Pick someone each night to doctor AND role block.
Last night I hit Novice, since I believed he would be a likely wolf target, for being reasonably useful town while not being one of the majopr targets.
Unfortunately, given the role block side of Jailkeeper, this doesn't actually completely clear him, since he could be a wolf who was prevented from killing.

Also, some clarification for Night 2: I hit slowcheetah that night. If he was the one sent to kill, should have prevented the wolk kill from occuring. Though I'm still thinking the 'both targetting Lewwyn' is a more likely scenario...

Out of time now, back later when I'll attempt to put actual reasons behind a vote for today. For now, Rowain, since my gut is telling me Bigger and pindicator are more town than he is.

[Jkaen]

hmm interesting, that does kind of support TTs role claim I guess, and I agree Novice would be a reasonable kill target, and if 2 wolves are left I would be surprised if he was performing the kill

[Bigger]

urgh, Matt, why would you role-reveal. You weren't going to be lynched and it looks like you may have prevented night kills 2 days in a row. Good job with that, but you should have kept silent about it.

Novice isn't who I thought the wolves would target, but he was probably a safer kill.