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WW14 - The Edge of Reason
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Mattimeo Wrote:Ah. I don't believe I've seen reference to this ability of yours before, care to elaborate on what it entails? Well I'm the reason why waterbat was so creative yesterday, I'm the reason why zak has problems with I and d... and d...  . And had it worked on night 1 Jkaen would have been restricted to agreeing posts. In short I'm the postrestrictor. But I have nothing todo with any restrictions handed out with roles (VM for example) and I must hand out one every night.
OK, I should really just start actually refreshing the thread to see if there are any new replies before posting...
Jkaen Wrote:(actually how do we know the chicken curse, zaks curse etc are WW infections not villager ones?)As far as I'm aware, we don't. Though it's also possible that they're not inflicted by anyone within the game at all, and are the result of time conditions on their roles to begin with. Though the severity of the chicken curse waterbat got hit with does seem to imply that it was a wolf weapon (rather than GM inflicted), as does some of that lovely ASCII art he partook in.
Ok, I'm glad you've been talking Mattimeo, I am more convinced towards your role than I was before. Thinking about it more, a doctor (baner?) role which also roleblocks is a pretty weird role.
Therefore I'm going to unvote and see how things go
"You want to take my city of Troll%ng? Go ahead and try."
...Just thought cant check properly due to connection but post restrictions:
Novice - Quotes as part of his role VM - Leet as part of his role Jkaen - Agreeing blocked night 1? Waterbat - chicken inherited night 2 Zak - Reduced vocab inherited night 3 In the back of my mind is that we had somebody who could only disagree, am I imagining that?
That role really seems like something that would be more wolf aligned that town aligned, to be honest.
Trying to work out if that first post limiting the targets to you and Jkaen was a slip, and you've been attempting damage control since then... (and yes, I do apprectiate the irony of my mentioning that I should be refreshing the page to check for new posts, while not doing so for that that post. Quite amusing) Aha! A tangible benefit to actually following my own advice! Jkaen - I believe it is waterbat who has to disagree with at least something every post. Jkaen Wrote:If you are a villager then surely better to restrict what, say Sareln can say, rather than Zak Restricting Sareln of all people is simple useless. the only one that would make sense would be one that forces him to make a lot of many worded posts but thats not an option I have. Jkaen Wrote:Ok, why choose the people you did?First I have a predetermined set of restrictions. Some of them are bleh (example forcing the player to include a quote of a film of his chosing), some are very strong (the one targetted at you and waterbat) and some are in the middle (the one for zak). Night 1 - target Jkaen - effect player can only post to agree with something. Reason Day 1 history. As I rtold uberfish I look forward to a day without endless discussion of a stupid point. Action failed but turned out to be not necessary after all. Night 2 - target waterbat effect chicken is all he can post. Reason I thought him a wolf ( I voted for him at day 2) wanted to shut him up and see how that goes. He did brilliant work with it and for that alone I think this was worth it  Night 3: I could use a very strong action (yes I have one left which would hamper the defense quite strongly) and thought abpout using it on either Bigger or pindicator. In the end I decided that the village learns more if those 2 can talk freely so I used a medium one on zak who is well versed to easily overcome it so no harm for the village. Twinkletoes89 Wrote:Thinking about it more, a doctor (baner?) role which also roleblocks is a pretty weird role.http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper It's actually a reasonably standard role. In a game with investigative roles, especially vanilla seer/cop, a standard doctor can be fairly over-powered - the seer can claim day 1, and be effectively immune from kills until the doctor is dead, which the scum can only manage by the usual trial and error. With a Jailkeeper rather than a doctor, though, that strategy is immediately eliminated - sure, the seer can be kept safe, but at a cost of not being able to actually investigate. Allows games to still have a solid investigative role and a saving role, without being basically instant village wins. I would imagine the extra coverage from *everything*, rather than just kills, is based on this game having several negative effects that might be useful to be saved from that don't actually kill you - say, for an obvious example, the one Rowain has. Rowain Wrote:Restricting Sareln of all people is simple useless. the only one that would make sense would be one that forces him to make a lot of many worded posts but thats not an option I have.On the contrary, I'd consider restricting someone who is not talking very much to begin with quite village friendly - you're not really negatively impacting the information gathering ability of the town. I would also argue that a town-aligned player with your role should be focusing on using all the *least* effective restrictions - the one that forces them to quote a movie at some point in their post seems quite useful for this, having minimal impact on their ability to contribute. Basically, applying your ability in a way that you say is 'useless' is actually the best possible way to apply it, from a town perspective. Though, I'm very much of the opinion that post restrictions are bad, rather than fun, as many people here seem to be implying. Which is probably a good part of the reason why I can't seem to get the fact that such a role would be wolf-aligned out of my head. Mattimeo Wrote:On the contrary, I'd consider restricting someone who is not talking very much to begin with quite village friendly - you're not really negatively impacting the information gathering ability of the town. I would also argue that a town-aligned player with your role should be focusing on using all the *least* effective restrictions - the one that forces them to quote a movie at some point in their post seems quite useful for this, having minimal impact on their ability to contribute. From a pure theoretical POV you are right but this would be a betrayal of uberfish, his work and of the lurkers. I tried to get the best of both worlds (fun without hurting the village too much) with my usage of the power. |
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