I Have Some Bad News

[Dr. Nomadic]

Civilization IV was not within IGN's top 100 video games ever made, and Civilization II was #3. :mad:

The video game in the #1 spot was Super Mario Bros.

[Qwack]

I'm inclined to agree with super mario bros at #1, however civ 4 should definately be in the top 100. I think its the best Civ game.

[Dr. Nomadic]

1. Super Mario Bros.
2. Tetris
3. Civilization II
4. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
5. Super Mario 64
6. Half-Life 2
7. Super Metroid
8. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
9. Final Fantasy III
10. Resident Evil 4
11. StarCraft
12. Star Wars: TIE Fighter
13. Ms. Pac-Man
14. Pirates! (the original, not the 2004 remake)
15. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
16. Shadow of the Colossus
17. Super Mario World
18. Chrono Trigger
19. Doom
20. Metal Gear Solid
21. X-COM: UFO Defense
22. System Shock 2
23. Super Mario Kart
24. Street Fighter II: The World Warrior
25. SimCity 2000
26. Half-Life
27. Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic
28. Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness
29. Dragon Warrior
30. Metroid Prime
31. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
32. Halo: Combat Evolved
33. Fallout
34. Deus Ex
35. Grand Theft Auto III
36. Grim Fandango
37. Pokemon Blue Version
38. Final Fantasy Tactics
39. Super Mario Bros. 3
40. Gran Turismo 3 A-spec
41. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
42. The Legend of Zelda
43. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
44. Panzer Dragoon Saga
45. Battlefield 1942
46. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
47. God of War
48. Shining Force II
49. Guitar Hero II
50. Super Smash Bros.
51. Sonic the Hedgehog
52. Dune II: The Building of a Dynasty
53. Rome: Total War
54. Contra
55. Final Fantasy II
56. NHL '94
57. ICO
58. Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
59. Command & Conquer: Red Alert
60. Prince of Persia
61. Phantasy Star IV
62. Wolfenstein 3-D
63. Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution
64. Total Annihilation
65. Thief II: The Metal Age
66. Burnout 3: Takedown
67. Mega Man 2
68. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
69. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
70. Tecmo Bowl
71. Planescape: Torment
72. MechWarrior 2
73. Resident Evil
74. Sam & Max Hit the Road
75. Golden Eye 007
76. Final Fantasy VII
77. Star Fox
78. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
79. Secret of Mana
80. Ninja Gaiden Black
81. Space Invaders
82. Syndicate
83. World of Warcraft
84. Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle
85. Mafia
86. Perfect Dark
87. Advance Wars
88. Star Wars
89. Alone in the Dark
90. Okami
91. Pilotwings
92. WipEout 3
93. Ultima VII: The Black Gate
94. NIGHTS into Dreams...
95. Bionic Commando
96. Wave Race 64
97. Silent Hill 2
98. Quake II
99. Rayman 2: The Great Escape
100. Archon: The Light and the Dark

[sunrise089]

Lists like these are tough - even though games haven't been out all that long, there are so many genres that certain titles have just become iconic. Games like Ocarina of Time, Super Mario Bros, Final Fantasy VII, Civ 2....I could think of way more than 10 titles that "must" make any top ten list

The only really odd things I see (other than the oldest and most groundbreaking titles getting shafted) are surprisingly high scores for some games: Tie Fighter, Pirates!, and Shadow of the Colossus all seem to have done very well.

EDIT: Thanks for posting the entire list Swein, that was a helpful post.

[scooter]

Making one of these lists would be brutal... I would put Ocarina of Time ahead of all the Civ games (please don't hurt me), and putting Mario Brothers at first makes sense because of the influence it had, so the top of the list doesn't have any big complaints from me... Even though I'm not a fan of shooters since they're a bit bland, Halo should definitely be higher because it revolutionized multiplayer gaming. Thanks Swein for posting the full list, I saw the article on IGN but you had to click through them one at a time (no joke), so I figured I'd save a few hours of my life... The most notable game series (for me) missing from this list are any of the Age of Empires/Mythology games...

[VoiceOfUnreason]

Sands of Tim at #68? That's sad.

[Kylearan]

Hi,

these lists are silly but fun. This list can't be serious though - there's no Diablo on it!

And personally, I miss a lot of old titles there too. M.U.L.E, Rogue/Nethack, Star Raider or Lemmings not only were groundbreaking at their time but also still fun to play nowadays. At least Archon is listed at #100...

-Kylearan

[Chacal]

Even though I'm not a fan of shooters since they're a bit bland, Halo should definitely be higher because it revolutionized multiplayer gaming.

That would be Goldeneye, which is at a disgusting 75!!

[Dr. Nomadic]

Another thing I wanted to ask you guys is why you have moved on from Civ3 to Civ4; there's a hot discussion going on at Civfanatics and the diehard Civ3 fans seem to have good points.

Please respond to the list at the top as well as this question.

[Sullla]

Another thing I wanted to ask you guys is why you have moved on from Civ3 to Civ4; there's a hot discussion going on at Civfanatics and the diehard Civ3 fans seem to have good points.

Because Civ4 is a much better game?

I've seen that discussion thread at CivFanatics, and it's mostly a lot of hot air. Whenever any new Civ game comes out, there's always a number of people who prefer to stick with what they know and refuse to move on to the new version. There's nothing wrong with that either; to each his own. When Civ3 came out, there was a small minority of snooty Civ2 fans that insisted that the new game was rubbish, and proudly declared that they were sticking with Civ2. It's very amusing for me to see that six years later, the exact same arguments that were used to attack Civ3 are now used to defend it.

Besides, we played Civ3 to death from 2001-2004. The game has a LOT of gameplay holes in it. Have you ever seen our exploits list? No one will ever be able to convince me that Civ4's gameplay is a step back from Civ3. And that's not just because I helped develop Civ4.