BRickAstley Wrote:Uh, guys? I think someone is trying to mess with me or scare me off..... I just got this in a PM.
What in the hell. I don't even have any idea what this means, except that it apparently comes from the mindworm(s), emphasis on "apparently". I wonder if it was sent by the same individual who sent the message implicating Maniac. Doesn't have many similarities in content, aside from the abundance of grammatical errors, but otherwise how many people do we have running around here who can send anonymous messages? Or Brick is making the whole thing up, for who knows what reason, although that seems unlikely due to the lack of a direct benefit for him.
Waterbat reads very strongly villager to me based on what and how he has written. I'm surprised we seem to have five variations of the neighborizer / commuter in this game tho (the "planet" people pairs + waterbat), if everyone is telling the truth about their roles, although redundancy has been the name of the game here so far. I'm also kind of surprised that Lal was a villager; slowcheetah was never high on my list of suspects, but it would have at least made for dramatic irony if he was a wolf. Besides being lousy from a numerical standpoint, losing two villagers in one night has disturbing implications. If you're a Vig and you just made a bad call, speak up- better to have one person we can focus on than having to worry about the alternative, which I think at this point definitively confirms a third enemy faction, unless we're facing a really unbalanced wolf pack which can multi-kill. Although I'm not sure why the previous two nights had only one kill each, if there is a third faction- failed night attempts from one of the parties, perhaps?
Regarding the game in general, we seem to have a number of confusing subplots running at once. I'll summarize them for reference. I have
bolded the participants I feel are most suspect when applicable-
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The Drone Saga, wherein three players have claimed / been revealed to have the same Riot ability, and another player's power allegedly counters them. I am sure we have a NAP somewhere in this mess, it makes no sense otherwise, I'm guessing
Sareln just on the basis of him claiming the only redundant role in the bunch (assuming here that Waterbat is telling the truth & the Name Seer exists and has confirmed Molach's role). But I'm still far from certain, Sareln hasn't actually read like a wolf, and he did name-claim as a drone before Molach, so it's quite possible Bigger just was lazy & gave them both the same role and powers. We can just start killing people here until we get a wolf, but with three possibilities we could screw ourselves over bad if we pick wrong.
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Strange Dreams, two odd messages have been sent so far (that we know of)- thoughts lean for the first having been from the Wolves based on the forced, artificial-sounding content, although we do not know for certain. The message implied the sender was a seer, which seems awfully suspect since Serdoa is very likely ours, but maybe there's a role seer floating around out there in addition to the alignment and alleged name seer. I think it's unlikely, but can't rule it out. Now Qg, recipient of the first message has been night-killed. Like Catwalk before him, he's another villager who wasn't really steering any arguments or giving indication of being particularly powerful.
Was he killed for bringing the first message to light, as a gambit to throw us off-track and double-down on an innocent Maniac, or for some reason unrelated? I learn towards the second option- Qg's killing seems less than optimal for the Wolves unless they were going for something, and framing Maniac makes sense. Reverse psychology remains a possibility, although this would be a lot of effort to convince us that a player who never attracted much suspicion in the first place is innocent.
Then there's the new, second message. Also sent via text-based dream sequence. The content is a bunch of illiterate crap wherein what may be the Planet expresses vague unease at humanity. I cannot fathom what the point of this was, if we were meant to take it as a serious attempt to communicate. If it was sent by the same party as the first, why? What would the point be? A Mindworm Faction player trying to sow chaos (but also confirming their existence without saying anything worth reading?). I think the most plausible possibility is it was also sent by the Wolves, same as the first, and it is intended to encourage third-faction hysteria, which has already led us astray once before.
So. To sum this mess up, I think there's surely a Wolf at work here, beyond question- but the only name we have is Maniac, and I don't think he's looking guilty. Maybe one of our various seers can scan him next.
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Neighbors Galore, more redundant roles at play. Two players from two in-game pro-planet factions claim anti-planet powers (Injera, Meiz), and have secret contact with two other players (thestick, deceased Tasunke). Within each pair, there is alleged to be an unequal distribution of information, where one player knows more about the other. Meanwhile waterbat says he's able to visit people in the night, like a promiscuous version of the pseudo-mason pairs. As I stated earlier, I believe waterbat to be both telling the truth and likely village. But I think it is extremely likely that we have a Wolf out of the three remaining players- of them, I think
Meiz seems the most suspicious, having on day 1 brought up Tasunke as being strange, possibly a Mindworm, but then changing his mind and vote at the end of the day, when it made no difference and alarm had already been raised.
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Third faction?, from what I have gathered, it has been implied left, right & center that we have a third, Planet-themed faction, but not actually confirmed. If there is a Planet Faction, I imagine that they're enemies, given the village win condition, although Planet can be benevolent in-game so it'd make sense if there's just some sort of Lyncher or similar mostly-benign 3rd party role at play instead. Right now I think this is still a distraction, and we should focus on the Wolves, which we know exist & have better and more leads for.
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The Elusive Marr, Lewwyn says there's a NAPper running around disguised as someone else. Since waterbat claims contact with a name seer, a role which I think very likely exists in this game, Lew's assertion does make sense since barring other disguised parties there wouldn't seem to be much use for learning names as a power. I give Lew 60% odds of being village, 30% for being a Lyncher or similar 3rd party, and 10% for being a Wolf. If we can catch three more wolves (assuming a pack of five) and none are Marr, then Lew becomes a lot more suspect.
I think that's about everything major outside of the main issue of Finding Wolves.
I'm actually going to vote for
Jkaen for now. His participation is slipshod, and more importantly his voting for Lewwyn is very poorly-warranted and seems like a Wolf attempt to draw attention to one of the less suspicious players and avoid having to cast a serious vote.
I am sure that there are at least a couple wolves between Brick / Sareln / Molach / Meiz / Injera / thestick. I just don't know which, so I don't want to cast a vote on one at this moment.
