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WW15 - Chiron is a harsh mistress

Okay. My bad for not thinking that one through...
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Serdoa Wrote:Tasunke - Thinker - none - Village

You can't know that. Thinker could be his role, but his ability could only be revealed day 3, like so many other people's abilities.

Quote:We just assume that the drones all have the same ability. Is this the case? No clue because we appearantly have no role-seer to check for us.

Didn't Sareln at least claim the same ability as Mattimeo?

Anyway, this whole conversation started with Jkaen's post 968:

Quote:I just can't see how these two statements can coexist:

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- Role playing is possible for those that choose too - none of the names will give clues to the scumminess of the player, so revealing your name shouldn't help or hurt you stay alive. Having a general knowledge of Alpha Centauri won't really help you catch wolves or fool the village, although it might help you enjoy the game more
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Just wanted to say before night ends that I know that Conquerer Judaa Marr is a napper and is the reason I was attempting to find out who was who. I'm not a name seer though there probably is one. My special ability is basically knowing my one enemy is in the game. I am saying this now mostly because i think my opening day was pretty crap and I dropped too many "whos got the name?" hints.

Would the GM say that if there was a nameseer, and if it did hurt Marr to reveal his name?
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Jkaen Wrote:I just can't see how these two statements can coexist:

Quote:- Role playing is possible for those that choose too - none of the names will give clues to the scumminess of the player, so revealing your name shouldn't help or hurt you stay alive. Having a general knowledge of Alpha Centauri won't really help you catch wolves or fool the village, although it might help you enjoy the game more

Quote:Just wanted to say before night ends that I know that Conquerer Judaa Marr is a napper and is the reason I was attempting to find out who was who. I'm not a name seer though there probably is one. My special ability is basically knowing my one enemy is in the game. I am saying this now mostly because i think my opening day was pretty crap and I dropped too many "whos got the name?" hints.


If anybody can solve this problem for me I will back off Lewwyn for now
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If Bigger told Marr that one person would know Marr is NAP in this game then that would really be all he needed to know. Remember too that novice was the last person to claim a name (or no name). I believe as NAP he was trying to prevent a mass name claim because he knew one of his NAP mates was Marr and that Marr was known to be NAP by at least one person (myself).
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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Is it customary for the GM to give false information to all but 2 players? If there was a nameseer and a NAP Marr, shouldn't the GM leave the players guessing on the importance of names, rather than outright lie to them?
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Maniac Wrote:Is it customary for the GM to give false information to all but 2 players? If there was a nameseer and a NAP Marr, shouldn't the GM leave the players guessing on the importance of names, rather than outright lie to them?

GM can do whatever he likes. If it makes my role more difficult or more interesting to have to convince everyone. I mean, if he hadn't said that it would be even easier to go after Marr. I know when I GMed I wasn't lying per say but I was definitely hiding the truth an attempting to lead the players down the wrong path.
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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Lewwyn Wrote:I mean, if he hadn't said that it would be even easier to go after Marr.

Or it might have made your hypothetical role harder as people would be more reluctant to tell their names.

Bigger not mentioning anything about the importance of names would be hiding the truth.

Telling the players names don't matter when they do, is lying.
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Fine, he lied. Its WW. The game is based around lying. I know what I know. I know what my role is.

Facts:

1) Marr is the only leader not claimed.
2) Waterbat knew Molach was a drone before Molach said it based on a name seer he claimed.
3) Waterbat contacted me telepathically for today as an Empath.

So answer me this: Why hasn't Marr claimed or counter claimed against me? If you believe Marr doesn't exist why would he be left out when bigger was evidently trying to use all the other leaders names? How else could Waterbat have known Molach was a drone?
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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zakalwe Wrote:Why not?


Because the dream message thing implicating him as a Wolf doesn't seem legit, and seems impractical at best were it intended to be reverse psychology meant to draw suspicion from him, especially since he wasn't even attracting any votes prior to the message going out.



That said, his latest line of argument is sheer bangheadduh , So now I am starting to wonder.



Jkaen Wrote:Finally correct me please if youare the name seer however from the rules


Seriously, dude? rolleye Why do you want the name seer to reveal himself so badly? Are you Marr / some other disguised person? I'd vote for you now if I wasn't already.
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Lewwyn Wrote:So answer me this: Why hasn't Marr claimed or counter claimed against me?

Either he's scared of being lynched, or both you and Marr are NAP.

Quote:How else could Waterbat have known Molach was a drone?

Either both waterbat and Molach are NAP, or novice scanned Molach for his role.
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