One thought I had about Selrahc: if Jkaen is right that both Lewwyn and Maar are NAP, then Selrahc would make a prime candidate for being Maar. His forceful anti-Lewwyn reaction would then be pretty classic distancing. But if Lewwyn is telling the full truth, then Maar would probably have gone for a lower profile.
As mentioned, BRickAstley's dream also made me think of Selrahc. Not everybody could or would write such a flavorful passage.
Apart from that, I don't really have a read on him. So I guess I'm willing to lynch him, too.
Molach Wrote:Sareln is a NAP unless the game was setup with 3 village commuters. If it comes to a showdown with sareln & me I'll post additional info about my reasoning leading up to mattimeo's lynch that may or may not be enlightning.
Quote:(Sareln)I'm really not happy with Molach hiding his drone status while Mattimeo and I went to the mat last day cycle.
Well suppose you were village drone. You see two other identical drones have at it, so you assume one of them is NAP. They end up on the block. Now, what will revealing that you are a drone do? Probably you will be seen as innocent, freely claiming, but the price is revealing your power to NAP. So I wait, and was gonna claim first thing next day if a village drone got killed, so I could get the other lynched.
Waterbat just beat me to it.
The drone saga encompasses at least 4 players. Myself: Sareln (Drone), Mattimeo (Domai/Drone), Molach (Drone), and BrickAstley (Yang).
3 of the players have the ability "Drone Riot" which makes them immune to night actions (kills included, limited charges). The last player (BRickAstley) can cancel the other 3's abilities for one night.
We know that not all of them are NAP.
In fact, we know that at least 2 are innocent (Mattimeo, Myself)
Let's analyze the Yang power. Is it pro village or anti-village? At first blush it feels anti-village, since it strips protection from the drones. If everyone in the drone saga is villager, then the correct play for Yang is to never use his ability. Sure it makes the drones scannable by village power roles, but stifled night kills are worth far more than letting a seer scan innocents, so it sounds like bad design. So we can be fairly confident that at least one of the 3 remaining players is NAP.
(Assumption) There is at least 1 NAP remaining in the group of 3 survivors from the drone saga.
This narrows it down to two scenarios. Either Yang is NAP, or one of the drones is NAP. Now let's reanalyze the Yang Power. How has its affiliation changed in each Scenario?
(Scenario) Yang is NAP
If Yang is NAP, then the power makes a lot of sense. He can neutralize for a night all the drone's self protection schemes and let his team guarantee their kill. Additionally, if there's a 3rd faction, that faction's kill would also go through if on a drone. Looks like a safety skill for the game, just in case an endgame is reached with the drones vs. the NAP, and very anti-village.
However, BRickAstley claimed he didn't know what a drone riot did and he claimed when the board was talking about atrocities and the drone saga had not come to a head. If BRickAstley is NAP, he has every right to be pissed at Bigger right about now as he made a claim without knowing how anti-village it actually is.
(Scenario) One of the Drones is NAP
The drone riot ability then becomes a soft counter to Zakharov's planet buster or 3rd faction night-kill attempts. It also blocks village investigation roles. Sounds pretty solid as a wolf ability. Yang in turn can force the vigilante kill through or the scan as well; at the cost of exposing the other drones for the night.
(Scenario) Yang and a Drone are NAP.
Yang's power becomes more useful and the 1-charge makes the most sense. He uses it to force the kill through on a rioting drone at the cost of exposing his teammate to scans / vigilante for the round.
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Personally, I'm inclined to the 2nd or 3rd Scenario. One of the drones is NAP, and that drone is Molach.
Why?
Because he hid. I think he'd still be hiding if Waterbat hadn't pegged him and trying to set up the lynch of me or BRickAstley. After all, if both drones that the village knows about turned up innocent, wouldn't the next logical step be to kill BRickAstley, the one with the anti-drone power? It's way too much like the endgame of my one wolf game: he saw the village making a move based on incomplete information and kept it to himself. His justification that he didn't want to narrow the NAP's search field is pretty weak tea IMO. One player, one way or another, is not the difference. It's a good reason to not mass role claim, but I think the individual reveal here takes precedence.
Help the village try to find the best case with access to the most information it can get. The attitude that the village needs guiding so that we make the right choice screams wolf to me. He spends the whole game looking at us like sheep, trying to manipulate us, and his justification makes sense in that light. Trust me, I know, I've been there. So I guess it's my turn to latch on and push hard as Tasunke did.
zakalwe Wrote:One thought I had about Selrahc: if Jkaen is right that both Lewwyn and Maar are NAP, then Selrahc would make a prime candidate for being Maar. His forceful anti-Lewwyn reaction would then be pretty classic distancing. But if Lewwyn is telling the full truth, then Maar would probably have gone for a lower profile.
As mentioned, BRickAstley's dream also made me think of Selrahc. Not everybody could or would write such a flavorful passage.
Apart from that, I don't really have a read on him. So I guess I'm willing to lynch him, too.
Lewwyn had a line earlier in the game where he stated that he didn't think Selrahc was Maar. That popped up in the memory when I read this.
To sareln and others, I wrote down this last game-day:
"I think if I claim now, without any pressure on me, I can be confident people won't think I'm NAP and therefore suspect one of the others, but I'd rather keep it a secret for endgame and instead use my knowledge to push Sareln to lynch."
and later
"If others knew what I know then it would come down to mattimeo vs sareln for lynch, but as it is it might be people will be more comfortable lynching thestick instead. Still that isn't a terrible result either, mabye serdoa can get a scan in tonight. "
And later
"Got my mattimeo vs sareln showoff as I wanted"
Make sense?
See I still worry about Bigger, he could have made 3 village commuters in which case you are innocent. But I know I am, so if you convincingly claim 1 commuting drone is NAP then it's you.
Perhaps I should post my whole story, what I just posted makes me look like I'm setting up for mislynch. No I was going for the lynch of NAP.
It's a tad long, start reading at bottom, lot of it is outdated. Main idea is just use it to deceide whether I'm village or NAP.
Bigger preferred I not post the link but rather copy-paste it over. It is in a forum.
Molach
08-23-2012
05:35 AM ET (US)
Edit
Delete
Sareln leaning even more to NAP due to recent attacks & vote on me.
Started quoting a bit, will reveal whole thing if I have to.
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Molach
08-22-2012
02:49 PM ET (US)
Whoops, in last post forgot that Novice voted thestick, satisfying NAP-vote-spread.
However not that unlikely still that say 2 nap stick, 2 tasunke and 1 independent
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Molach
08-22-2012
02:44 PM ET (US)
I'll post the forum transcript if I get one more vote.
Perhaps do a little list now...I'll have to do it before my lynch anyway so for now, here is what I think.
(writing in word then clipping back in here, if thats okay)
8. Molach VILLAGER
3. Serdoa VILLAGER
While a fake-seer ploy could make sense in some circumstances, they would never claim this early and never sacrifice RBâs best damn wolf player with a rolescanner ability.
5. Waterbat VERY VERY LIKELY VILLAGER
From day 1, I might add.
7. Lewwyn VERY LIKELY VILLAGER
Now for the rest. There are 4 wolves among these 10 guys. So 40% baseline chance of anyone being a wolf. Order is sign-up order. Minus dead/villagers.
1. Jkaen
Disappearing acts. Votes me day 2 and just leaves it & me hanging. But he was really gone. I feel he has a certain stubbornness in discussions (vs Serdoa even) that is not NAPpish.
2. Thestick
While I personally am not that convinced of his case, others of my trusted ones were. And he has faded back a bit now with the heat off.
One thing: thestick (6)- Tasunke, novice, Lewwyn, Maniac, catwalk, Molach
So maniac, Lewwyn and Molach are only ones left alive who voted thestick. What does this mean? I do not know. If wolves were looking to spread the votes then maniac is NAP. Thestick alignment doesnât matter. However I think it makes thestick more likely to be villager, NAPs didnât care where they voted.
11. Injera
I think greater than base chance of being NAP. Gone silent too. Not 100 % good vibrations from what was posted earlier. Has faced no pressure all game.
12. bobchillingsworth
Well I pinged him earlier as village. Nothing gives rise to suspicion. Has suspected me a long while on and off, but I think he is honest and not forcing it. Ow.
13. meiz
Why are you alive? You did switch from sareln to mattimeo. If Sareln is NAP - perhaps a save. Gave âdidnât like crowd voting for mattimeoâ as reason, and while I used same reasoning, it is not a good reason along.
14. Selrahc
Good village vibrations here. Not very active but I agree with so much he says.
17. Zakalwe
Deep cover NAP. Or since other people have gone against him, maybe not that deep cover. Nothing concrete, just feels like he is a wolf.
18. Maniac
Well, as I am village and Lewwyn probably too
19. BRickAstley
If Sareln is village, then Brick is either NAP, or Bigger is for making us lynch 4 drones to find nothing
And that concludes the votes from the Norwegian jury
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Molach
08-22-2012
07:24 AM ET (US)
....okay wrong again. About slowcheetah NAP and waterbat nameseer.
Qgqqqq villager no big surprise.
I go after Sareln even if the one-drone-must-be-NAP argument possibly does not mean anything. I want to see how he responds, hoping perhaps that if he is NAP he will lash back and force a showdown. And then this forum might be enough to tip the lynch in my favor.
Gonna write a list of suspects some time before lynchtime. Or possibly in the night if it's clear that I'm well clear of lynch tonight.
I am not very optimistic about our chances here, seems everyone is just flailing randomly about with votes. See if anything crystallizes during day.
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Molach
08-21-2012
11:29 AM ET (US)
People are actually suspecting waterbat? They think novice scanned me, and waterbat let slip this info in that question?
Wow.
He must be nameseer, that was not a slip it was a pointed question. He did not want to be a possible nightkill without letting it be known that I was a drone all along. Don't think it will fool wolves though, waterbat dead / blocked serdoa followed by a lynch of a drone.
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Molach
08-21-2012
01:25 AM ET (US)
Oh and wolves have a roleblocker
Tonight waterbat dies, unless he alreadt scanned Marr in which case he might live a day or two, confirmed villager but cant harm with scans.
Serdoa roleblocked.
And think I'm going live with this thread first thing tomorrow so see you then.
-M
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Molach
08-21-2012
01:16 AM ET (US)
Hopefully waterbat also scanned zakalwe as Marr and that was why he was pushing for him.
Obciously my case is weakened by waterbat making his scryresult public first rather than me.
I wonder if wolves are discussing wildly what watervat is on anout, even they have to wonder what about 3 drones with identical powers. but conclusion "waterbat is nameseer" is pretty obvious. Guess they are already working at how to capitalize on it.
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Molach
08-20-2012
07:04 PM ET (US)
Why did waterbat ask me about similar monikers?
He must know im drone.
Must be the name seer.
He was probably worried about nightkill and wanted to share info that I was a drone.
Terrible luck revealing us like that, if I had claimed he wouldnt have and might well have nailed alien.
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Molach
08-20-2012
06:31 PM ET (US)
Gah.
Which of the veterans voting for mattimeo were NAP?
How likely that both thestick and sareln are NAP?
Any chance both are villagers? 3 village commuters in the game? Wow. Perhaps this was intended, just make us self-destruct after roleclaiming.
Now, should I hide or should I go....
Serdoa is perhaps too obvious target.
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Molach
08-20-2012
06:04 PM ET (US)
thestick(deadline minus 3 minutes)
Quick check in, have to run again.
[vote]Sareln, between lurking and thinking that being quiet attracts nightkills.
This just leaped out as suspect. no in-game effect, mattimeo just as dead. Possible thestick/sareln wolf pair?
If matt is village, then lynching those two (sareln first) is what I'd do next.
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Molach
08-20-2012
06:00 PM ET (US)
Hm. If mattimeo is village, I am suspect for sealing the deal.
If wolf I am suspect for voting for my packmate to build cover.
If village I suppose I need to claim, and possibly get sareln lynched by the cannot-be-3-village-commuters argument.
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Molach
08-20-2012
05:39 PM ET (US)
Got my mattimeo vs sareln showoff as I wanted.
Mattimeo will probably hang.
In addition to the post I'm writing where I switch to mattimeo, there is the thing that if we have a watcher the roleblocker would be spotted for sure. Mabye a watcher did watch serdoa and noticed noone visiting him. And mabye he picked up earlier than me that serdoa scanned mattimeo & voted. Anyway the wolves could be worried about that, and instead go into hiding to ward off the scry.
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Molach
08-20-2012
02:30 PM ET (US)
And now Sarelns defense.
Not easy to figure out this. I could claim right now, and then get input from the others about what they think.
However, wolves would perhaps give the wrong kind of input, it would cost me the secrecy of my power.
No reason I can't figure this out by myself. And if Mattimeo is the boss drone, me and sareln are regular drones, more symmetry if one of each alignment. But mabye Bigger just rolled the dice when pairing roles with alignment, after forcing one alien to be NAP.
If others knew what I know then it would come down to mattimeo vs sareln for lynch, but as it is it might be people will be more comfortable lynching thestick instead. Still that isn't a terrible result either, mabye serdoa can get a scan in tonight.
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Molach
08-20-2012
01:56 PM ET (US)
Mattimeo:
"Also, just in case you do make the mistake of lynching me, putting it out there that the whole "repeat abilities are NAP mirrors" argument seems pretty bad. Both from a game construction sense - it's effectively the same as a mass claim of unique roles with wolf fake claims, which usually quickly resolves itself into a town win - and from the context of the role in question itself. Commuting is really not a typical wolf ability."
I'd agree. But I know there are 3 of us....
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Molach
08-20-2012
11:14 AM ET (US)
'fake' is wrong, I meant opposite aligned. Two village, one NAP
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Molach
08-20-2012
11:12 AM ET (US)
[After I post and vote for SARELN in the thread]
To explain further - I am village commuter. Both Sareln and mattimeo are claiming to be too. People are finding it difficult to believe 2 people with exact same role. So how about 3? So I think one of the others must be a fake. And I think Sareln is the one like I stated in thread. As NAP he knew that the power would make him appear very innocent.
I think if I claim now, without any pressure on me, I can be confident people won't think I'm NAP and therefore suspect one of the others, but I'd rather keep it a secret for endgame and instead use my knowledge to push Sareln to lynch.
Curiously, thestick is suspected for entirely different reasons, and so the lynches are not linked. Both, or either, or neither could be NAP, no corrolation. I am not convinced either way about thestick, I did post that one thing which I felt was villagerish but that could be balanced by other things people have picked up on. I havent really looked at him yet, more about drones so far.
GTG, family home
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Molach
08-20-2012
02:00 AM ET (US)
Okay so all of Sareln, mattimeo and me have the commuter ability. Or at least claiming to have.
So Brick's power seems to have little pro-village use, only thing would be "prevent NAP-drone from going into hiding so a scan can go through". Not saying this is impossible, the role is really a red herring and should not be used. He did freely claim & describe his power (since it was an atrocity).
I see that "And it will make it one less person for evils to kill tonight (assuming they won't go after serdoa) " from last post might be unclear. I mean, NAP will probably hunt watcher/nameseer/doctor tonight as well, possibly Serdoa. So that means one less target (me) to kill [from] tonight".
And if Serdoa did try to scan Sareln/Mattimeo, he should realize that it is possible Sareln/mattimeo went into hiding rather than roleblock. So gives a slightly higher reason to suspect Sareln/Mattimeo then. Must see if Serdoa goes after one of them.
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Molach
08-19-2012
06:40 PM ET (US)
Sareln claims drone, and exact same as me as well.
Can't say if it's more likely or not if he is evil since he claimed first.
He did have my exact same conclusion, one of the drone-influencers is NAP.
However Sareln was facing serious pressure here and perhaps saw drone claim as way off derailing the lynch wagon.
Not sure if I should claim now either. I still think the power will be helpful in the endgame. And it will make it one less person for evils to kill tonight (assuming they won't go after serdoa)
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Molach
08-19-2012
06:11 PM ET (US)
Zakalwe
"Moving on, BRickAstley claims the ability to prevent what Mattimeo can cause to happen, but neither knows what it (a drone riot) actually does. If someone actually does know what a drone riot does, I think it might be a good idea to speak up about it. It seems a little strange if both of them are innocent, when they cancel each other out like this. So knowing if a drone riot is good or bad would be helpful."
I still think there might be evil drone about, so both good or bad is my guess to his question. But I know for sure good
Zakalwe could be evil too and fishing, but that is perhaps a bit too obvious. So lean village again, and perhaps I should speak up.
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Molach
08-19-2012
04:03 PM ET (US)
BRick can suppress riots. Hurm. Probably better to not claim unless forced to. I am not certain he is a villager either.
Hm why would a villager be given power to suppress a villager's power? Could be Bigger just having fun with roles,don't use it if you don't mean it...but I lean towards that either Brick or one of the possible (probable?) other drones is NAP.
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Molach
08-19-2012
02:45 PM ET (US)
Okay mattimeo is not drone but free drone leader. He can instigate riot. Also get arrested, but claims he does not know what that will do. Perhaps nothing then, because my arrest is what leads to untargettability. Presumptions: There might likely be more drones about, the setup hints about this, so mattimeo's power is possibly to force a riot on us. Wonder if that will use up a charge. What if I already used up my charges already then?
Anyway, considering claiming a bit. I think "I am a drone, I can riot, the word arrested is curiously also mentioned in my role pm. However it is clearly explained what the in-game effect of the riot will be"
Follow that up with link from setup which hints at more drones out there.
Problem is that this will help wolves narrow search down, they will probably conclude that I'm no watcher or doctor or name seer. Suppose I could be some sort of roleblocker, switch-around type (cause chaos) or even jailer type (riot at X's hourse, sending both of us into jail. Another thing is that perhaps there is an NAP drone with my exact power, then I really would have given out my role just like that.
So I'll keep it in mind if there seems to be much confusion about drones in general, confusion perhaps not the best for village. But for now not gonna say.
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Molach
08-18-2012
06:56 PM ET (US)
Have to wonder if killing my no1 target is again an attempt to mislynch me? Would be cool if it was. Pindicator was a possible mislynch so cannot understand why him? Did they guess he had some big power? In that case they failed. His power could be very useful, but with 'oxygen-breathing' term I guess the aliens would be unaffected.
And I did not go into hiding last night. Thankfully, I just (after reading serdoa was blocked in thread) realized that if I had started a riot and become untargettable by night actions a scan on me would have failed too. Seems he really was blocked. Or jailed. Really hope it was not a village jailer who got stupid. Perhaps mattimeo the drone has my power and went into hiding.
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Molach
08-18-2012
05:47 PM ET (US)
Post #10 there because I thought I would have to claim last night.
If I was a wolf I would never hit serdoa tonight. Odds say serdoa will scan a villager, or a very guilty-looking NAP. Acceptable loss either way, weighed up against chance of a bad kill. Worst case they could get watched performing kill, have kill prevented by a doctor, at the same time serdoa scans another evil. Well I suppose the doctor would be watched as well. Anyway I think they will hit someone else for one or two nights. It is indeed possible that wolves have a role-blocker, so they could just block serdoa and kill someone else a few nights. Perhaps that is most likely result about tonight, no scry and someone else killed. Or mabye not, a watcher will of course spot the blocker visit him.
A village redirecting or 'switch two guys around' power would be very nice as that would foil either a nightkill or a roleblock.
Now I must decide if I should use a power.
I think I am still under suspicion. However it's in my experience the WW-inexperienced crowd, Bob, Brick and the Maniac-Along with Sareln and Jkaen, but those two last look like they laid a vote and went AFK for the day so I can't tell if they suspect me or not.
Anyway, my point is that perhaps the wolves realize that my case is so weak that only inexperienced guys are buying it, and that I possibly will be harder to mislynch. And having posted a fair bit, mabye better to kill me.
To balance that, a heavy poster is not that likely of having an important power like doctor or watcher.
I'll not post if I use the power or not tonight, if I have to reveal this thread later on it might be useful that wolves are unsure if I have any charges left.
Some quick reads:
Meiz seems very villager to me.
Also Waterbat still.
And Lewwyn.
...
On to my accusers,I think Bob is villager too. He really makes some weird/weak accusations. But he keeps making them. If he is a wolf he knows my alignment, and it will not look good if get killed. So probably inexperienced villager trying to find a wolf.
Maniac and Brick more possible wolves.
And Sareln/Jkaen I suspect a bit too for dropping vote then going afk. Must see how they explain themselves tomorrow. If one seems to be over-nice in explaining/apologizing for going AWOL that is the one I will suspect more.
Time up, gotta send the pm to bigger and see who got killed. Can always post suspects in main thread, nothing secret about that in daytime.
Lewwyn or Meiz would be my top guesses for night kill.
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Molach
08-17-2012
01:13 AM ET (US)
Thanks for vising my very own forum.
Remember to start at bottom, post 1, and read your way upwards.
Molach
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Molach
08-17-2012
01:12 AM ET (US)
One final word to any misguided villager who is perhaps holding the sway vote to decide if I hang or not. If you have just gone with the flow and not really have any opinion whether I am scum or not, and not least if you are mentioned below as suspicious, you are in grave danger of becoming the next mislynch. This could very well put us at 0-6 vs the wolves, and then we really we are struggling. If you honestly think I'm scum and have given good reasons why then less danger.
And any lurkers who read this, what you think, guilty or not? Vote now.
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Molach
08-17-2012
01:05 AM ET (US)
This post when I wake up to see I now am clear in the lead with 4 votes, so in case I am too busy defending in thread or drinking, here are the results from the norwegian jury:
PINDICATOR must be my prime target for next lynch. Not replying to setup accusation too.
I am a bit wary of ZAKALWE too, he has not been too useful this game, does give me neutral read but letting the wagon go on. Depends what happens later today I guess.
JKAEN gets a few more hours to wake up and reconsider his vote. I answered his points, so if he just hangs back and leaves his vote in place I think he's either making a very bad village play or is a wolf.
BOBCHILLINWORTH like I said in thread, possibly misguided villager. Must see if he changes vote or at leasts argues more about why I would be a wolf.
INJERA too, had a neutral read, not much to suggest wolf in posting, but if the vote stays in place this is telling.
SLOWCHEETAH hm. Only guy supporting my pindicator vote was also second suspect yesterday. Mabye trying to get on my good side as wolf, or just villager who agrees. I mean, suppose everyone has 25% chance of being wolf. If they become twice as suspicious they still are 50-50 wolf-villager. So dunno.
And WATERBAT, LEWWYN and SELRAHC should be village based on my thoughs earlier, but if selrahc usually plays recklessly as wolf then mabye not.
In general, be wary of people just leaving their vote on me and letting it ride out without bothering to argue more.
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Molach
08-16-2012
03:29 PM ET (US)
Looks like mattimeo is either joking a bit or is claiming to be a drone.
"I feel it necessary to point out that the life of a drone is not entirely about receiving their paycheck. We have feelings too, you know."
Hey, thats my role.
So if he really claims to be a drone...
Coming out with a claim like that, without pressure would indicate that he isn't the lying alien.
Signup thread says "Every player will be a character in the AC universe. Some will be faction leaders, some talents (thinker, engineer, empath, etc.) or drones. The latter are not extras but an important part of the game"
Okay he uses plural on drones there. Also important part of the game, hm missed that bit. So at least two, likely more drones, and probable that NAPs have realized that 'drone' is best safe claim now.
AC strategy lists 7 typers of citizen, 8 have claimed no name so seems not all types are in use. And that means that if the mystery alien is last to claim he can pick an unused one.
But all this is academic if the alien was given a safe claim.
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Molach
08-16-2012
09:44 AM ET (US)
Well looks like I can safely save my power another night...last game as wolf I get more or less cleared first three days, hardly a vote, and now 5-6 votes and several 'suspicious'. Well good for the end-game but a bit onimous now.
At least if someone else claims 'drone' I can point to the date stamp on my #2 post here and prove I claimed first.
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Molach
08-16-2012
12:19 AM ET (US)
Bob: "Why would anyone kill Catwalk? I haven't paid much/any attention to the last few games, did he get really good at WW or something? I don't think he ever indicated here that he was a particularly powerful villager, and his role sounds basically like some variety of gimped vig + protection from various forms of seer / devil. Need to reread his posts to see if he was getting on someone's case." Votes for thestick.
Pindicator "Bob, I'm glad someone else is thinking of "why catwalk" question. I think it's a question of who has a stake to lose from catwalk being a live. Will need to re-read his posts and see if something fits." No vote.
Then Bob:"Looking through his posts, I still don't see anything indicating he was a particularly valuable villager " and "So, unless killing Catwalk was an enormous overreaction for his going after Molach a couple times, I'm stumped."
So one or both of these should be my wolf. Still got my money on pindicator, perhaps because that's where my suspiciouns were earlier. And now I'm really gonna post in the thread....wouldnt want to be read as lurker due to excessive posting here...
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Molach
08-15-2012
06:28 PM ET (US)
Just a quick thought before bed - catwalk was voting me just about the whole day. Quick vote on Zakalwe at start, then ended up at thestick because 'no interest in lynching molach TODAY' (my emphasis). So mabye this is a nightkill designed to mislynch the Molach tomorrow.
I'll be on lookout for people hinting about who catwalk was after & suspecting without really voting. "Now let see who catwalk was suspecting" or "Look into catwalk's posts and see what pops out" sort of thing. Without a vote. With luck they get villagers to do the job.
And vigilante dead, that takes away a nice way to deal with mid-late game lurkers. Hopefully we won't have too much of that this game, most people seem to be posting regularly.
On to bed.
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Molach
08-15-2012
10:08 AM ET (US)
(Last message edited because I misclicked submit message on my phone halfway through)
After Day 1.
So, WATERBAT read villagerish to me like I said in thread. Don't think he would do a fake-bitterness gambit like that.
Also got village reads on CATWALK, first got that when he went after Zakalwe and later gut feel seems in line with this.
THESTICK is back to neutral camp. Two villagers on trial is pretty likely, given the lackluster voting going on, little interest in finding new targets, so perhaps he is leaning a bit towards village based on that. Case against him wasn't that strong in my opinion, just a tad weaker than on Tasunke. Thestick is also contributing freely, if he grows quit as game goes on we must be wary but not gonna go after him tomorrow.
Since Tasunke is innocent, one should look at the people voting for him. I think the early-middle group (SERDOA, BOBCHILLINWORTH, MATTIMEO) took very easy way out with the vote. Mabye ZAKALWE and THESTICK. LEWWYN started the whole thing, but later went off. A wolf might have done better just keeping that vote in place, not being noticable by the vote-shift. "Getting off the vote on innocent target" - type accusation have happen before.
SERDOA wrote a couple of posts questioning the case on thestick - which makes me tend villager here. If he is a wolf, then he knows that if thestick is innocent - not much point who votes who. And if thestick is a fellow wolf it is very dangerous to go out and defend like that. So I think villager who felt better about Tasunke lynch than thestick.
ZAKALWE is for now null read. He has (twice, mabye?) hinted that I would be a good lynch. Need to monitor this, if he hints some more tomorrow, leading to other people starting to lay on votes he might very well be a wolf setting up easy mislynch without leaving a vote-trail. Yes, I know I'm being paranoid but that does not mean I'm not being set up.
BOB has been contributing, and nothing off has leapt out yet.
MATTIMEO less contributing, mabye that is what made Jkaen vote for him.
On my suspects, SLOWCHEETAH was kinda a gut reaction, I read one post (him following catwalk with vote on me) and thought something was off about it. While it may have been a psycological reaction to a 'hostile' vote, I did not get that feel from Catwalk voting me first. So I am definately keeping my eye open here.
Last there is PINDICATOR. Again, not so easy to put in words, but several posts, so he will show up as active, but little content. Also he gives a first vote to Maniac with 4 minutes on the clock. As a villager I would certainly have picked one, if he had preferance for thestick of those two, mabye one would have switched. But still, 4 minutes left probably meant the game was over so not as telling as if it had been 20-30 minutes before. So I think vote & pressure on Pindicator is in order for tomorrow.
Nightkill - Either they will go for veteran player or fish for a powerrole. Or just kill two stones with a bird and try both. Mabye we all have roles this game again. I'd target someone who has not been too active, both to lessen chance of protection and whack them before they start naming names. Meiz/Novice/Jkaen, mabye. Zakalwe possibly has too high risk of protection, Lewwyn has posted some and actually attracted some negative attention if I'm not mistaken. Selrahc and Sareln both got some votes so they'd save for mislynch later. (Btw any of these could be wolves, so seeing who survives as time goes on will be interesting). If I were protector with limited charges I'd probably save it for later, too much guesswork now. My definition of veteran is anyone who has played a game before my first. Mabye Injera did as well.
Okay, lets see who gets killed and how tomorrow goes.
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Molach
08-15-2012
03:23 AM ET (US)
Roleclaim: I am a drone. Never did play alpha C ,yet, but did read a bit and it seems like this is analogous to unhappy citizens of civ 2.
My power is of course rioting - I can start a riot which has the effect that I will be rendered untargettable by night actions. I can do this 2 times.
Yeah and I am a villager. Last game I was ready for the chalkenge of being a wolf, but now I did a silent prayer and offering ro RNG gods to make me village. Yay.
I think my power is pretty strong. If I hang on till the end it just might foil a wolf win. Ill save the power as long as I dare. I have not used it night one obviously. Because there seems to be several people want me lynched tomorrow. Ideally I ahould stay semi-suspicios so wolves wont eat me prematurely but Im too scared of mislynch so Ill try my best to be trusted. Prolly gonna end up suspicious anyway
Edited 08-15-2012 04:16 AM
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Molach
08-15-2012
03:12 AM ET (US)
Welcome to the Molach files.
The intention of these writings are threefold. Firstly they will serve as my last defense or last will in case of my imminent lynch. Next post is my roleclaim and such, and further on will be my thoughts about the game so far. Secondly I will be able to post freely without antagonizing fellow villagers or wolves. I might just post in thread, but this can be updated at night so not much wadted time. I suppose I can quote freely from here, and mabye my rambling on here will lead to sudden glitches [sic] of inspiration. Thirdly it has not been done before. Selrahc did something similar with codes in a recent game. I might have made a word-document but this way it is easy to use from different PC/phones. And posts keep their timestamp so folks will know when I write different stuff. In case this is my last mislynch defense.
And yes, this could be an elaborate wolf setup, no hard feelings if you go through with the lynch. Just try to use my read on people post mortem.
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