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WW15 - Chiron is a harsh mistress

I'm getting in a car right now. If traffic is bad, might miss the deadline. Needed to get this in though - cant do screenshot as I've been on iPhone all frivkin day.

llewyn Wrote:This is the message that was sent:
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Waterbat post this later when Selrahc defends himself by attacking me saying that I'm not just suspicious because I'm an alien but because I lied about having a fake name. *He will say this and he will say I lied. *I am not putting that into my post so that he will attack me and you can show that I understand him exactly. *He defends by attacking out at perceived weaknesses trying to discredit attacks against him.
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That said, I feel much more confident on voting Selrahc or Zak than Injera. I could vote him based on metagame, but that has failed us so many times, so I'd rather go for the top two suspects.
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Good enough. My point is that I could predict Selrahcs behavior based on my interaction with when he was a wolf in WW11. Its exactly the same.
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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Serdoa Wrote:Well, I'll be honest Lewwyn, I still don't trust you in full. I simply can't because everything in me screams that there has to be more to your role then what you told us. BUT: I doubt you are NAP.

And that means lynching you is not what we want. I also agree with your reasoning against Selrahcs play till now, he really didn't do much more than hunting you. So maybe he is your counterpart. Though that means lynching him is probably not in our best interest either.

You're admitting that Lewwyn's acting weird, but you don't think that he's an NAP?
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thestick Wrote:You're admitting that Lewwyn's acting weird, but you don't think that he's an NAP?

Well I think he has a right to be slightly suspicious given how much of a fucking tard I was through the first through days. I got my village PM read it twice and didn't bother to check it again. My eyes glazed as soon as I saw villager again. From then I decided I would try to survive a few night since I've been nightkilled early the last few days. So I played a bit fast and loose in order to be a bit suspicious. Yeah sure its biting me in the ass a bit now, but at least I'm alive on Day 4 and I have enough information over the last few days to be sure about my reads. If I had come out strong the first two days my reads would not have been as good and I might have been a better night kill target.

Sorry I tried to play the opening a bit different than usual.
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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Quote:Called it. Waterbat would you please do the honors? I believe a screenshot with the time stamp would be best.

You called out that I would call you out on your bullshit? Quite a call.

I don't think you need to prove that you've been discussing how to take me down with Waterbat. You're pretty clearly out to get me today... it's not really a hard to credit idea that you've been discussing it.

Timestamped PM screenshots on the other hand, are the kind of thing that should *NEVER* be allowed in a werewolf game. Want me to show you a timestamped screenshot of my Role PM? Obviously not, because it renders the game a farce. Bigger's decision to not allow people to directly link their quicktopics is also a good one for the same reason. We have to play the majority of the game in the thread, not across a range of sub-venues.
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Selrahc Wrote:You called out that I would call you out on your bullshit? Quite a call.

Yeah, I know. I'm good.

Selrahc Wrote:I don't think you need to prove that you've been discussing how to take me down with Waterbat. You're pretty clearly out to get me today... it's not really a hard to credit idea that you've been discussing it.

Actually I'm just out to get the most likely NAP you are it. But I don't care if I don't lynch you. I'm just out to get NAPs whereever I can get them unlike you who is only focused on me.

Selrahc Wrote:Timestamped PM screenshots on the other hand, are the kind of thing that should *NEVER* be allowed in a werewolf game. Want me to show you a timestamped screenshot of my Role PM? Obviously not, because it renders the game a farce. Bigger's decision to not allow people to directly link their quicktopics is also a good one for the same reason. We have to play the majority of the game in the thread, not across a range of sub-venues.

Yeah, timestamped role pms from bigger, we should totally all ow that. rolleye
Seriously, this is private communication that has been allowed by bigger and there is lots of precedent for that. I just wanted the SS for more dramatic effect and pound home just how much of got you pegged. In the end the quote posted by waterbat is just as good. It proves my point.

Look Selrahc... Good try.
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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Injera
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Meiz Wrote:That said, I feel much more confident on voting Selrahc or Zak than Injera. I could vote him based on metagame, but that has failed us so many times, so I'd rather go for the top two suspects.

I just feel like punching the wall when I read shit like this. I'm the top suspect because I'm hunting Lewwyn? When did Lewwyn get his village card? What the hell has Lewwyn done that is so pro-village?

I don't get how pushing a legitimate suspect gets to be anti-town activity based on the guy who I'm trying to talk about getting annoyed at me. "Selrahc hasn't posted much.... and when he has it has been pointed at people's favorite, recently crowned Prince of Icecreamville, Lewwyn"

I'm not Marr. I'll take any scanner you have to prove that. I'll claim my role if it's helpful, but I see little point. You don't really have a good reason why anybody other than Marr(or if you believe Lewwyn, other members of the NAP) would go after Lewwyn so hard... unless they thought he was a danger to humanity.

This vote is so close, that I literally can't be NAP. If I die today, on a tiebreak vote against a town that is scattered to the four winds amongst a half dozen suspects, it will be because I don't have a single soul I can call on to save me. Not a secret telepathic link. Not a team of wolves. Not a neighbor. I'm just me. An ordinary villager, who thinks an alien is a threat to humanity and is doing everything he can to get other people to acknowledge that.
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You're my top suspect because I think you've been solely hunting Lewwyn in a game where there are supposedly 5 NAP members. It makes no sense whatsoever to a villager.
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