We can tell them they don't have to worry about us going for the "pink dot" location if that's what they were worrying about. The thing is us settling in their direction but closer to our capital isn't an aggressive move, there's no particular need to negotiate a border agreement at this point
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Niccolò Machiavelli's Thread
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After this Mackoti just saids he discusses with his team.
I hope we can find the gold soon or they send us the screenshot. Since TEAM hasn't responded anything to us it might be better to stick with Gillette. This also means that we should focus on filling the land between us and TEAM instead of us and Gillette. It would be so nice to have AH already teched so that we could settle the copper NW from us. That would speed up our expansion way more than the gold site that is merely a forest chopping center a quite a while before getting really useful besides the little extra commercce from gold.
You should go read some Mutineer posts on CFC...his typos almost have to be intentional
 . plako and I discussed on chat how to move forward after his conversation with Mackotti; he suggested we wait until my evening to send a response as we might get a free map out of it. Draft response:Quote:Sorry for the delays, I tend to wait for consensus before replying, but for this topic we haven't reached one yet. But hey, a bonus! Since its me handling things, you guys get more free info: Darrell uberfish Wrote:We can tell them they don't have to worry about us going for the "pink dot" location if that's what they were worrying about. The thing is us settling in their direction but closer to our capital isn't an aggressive move, there's no particular need to negotiate a border agreement at this point We can always pink dot them later. ---- I don't think we should be getting the feeling that reaching for the gold is too much. Just because we have another one to the other side, it doesn't change anything. We want the gold and the deer!  (first time I used this smiley!)This talk about our team taking too long to answer and conspiracy and what not is not good. We shouldn't feel pressed by it. If they want to settle in our direction just because of it, let them do it, they'll be one step closer to losing the game (and I know they won't do it because of that exactly). They want good relations with us as much as we want with them. So I don't see why we should give them the deer or anything else. There's no way for the two of us to win this game, so they are going to backstab us sooner or later. All these concessions won't be worth a thing when that happens. I guess what I'm saying is: either demand a way more favourable to our team border deal or say that we aren't ready to do a border deal right now, due to lack of exploration or whatever. But just giving land to them seems to be the worst option. They keep a good, safe border and we get nothing, since we are going to expand that way either way. P.S.: Sorry if I sound rude, it's not my intention.
I thought 2E of the gold was where we want to plant this city and any city that claims the deer will be a further city, which isn't what they're hassling us about so we don't have any need to tell them about right now?
Can we say "we haven't finalised the precise tile, but we can reassure you that the city will be on the eastern side of the gold" ? I read that chat with Mackoti as him saying they were worried we were straying across to the west of the gold with our city.
...wounding her only makes her more dangerous!
 -- haphazard1It's More Fun to be Jack of All Trades than Master of One.
We don't need to give precise spot just draw a line that is more favourable to us than them and say that neither should settle over it. Simple and gives them opportunity to start bargaining where the border should exactly go. All constructive dialogue is good even if it wouldn't lead to anything - silence is bad it makes us hard partner to deal with.
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