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Something that struck me a day ago that I wasn't sure was relevant. Compare these two:
Jkaen Wrote:Serdoa,
I do have some sort of title/position in a similar manner to Tansuke's thinker. No I am not going to claim it as it would hint at my power
zakalwe Wrote:@Serdoa. We are not "nearly through" with a mass name claim. We have a bunch of "nameless" claims, which isn't going to fly. I believe everybody has a role name, even if it isn't the name of a faction leader. Tasunke's role name was "Thinker". I have something similar. That is, I'm not a faction leader.
These two posts are replies to the call for the mass claim both directed towards Serdoa and both are extremely similar. In fact they both use the word similar they both reference Tasunke, and they both mention the thinker role. These are an hour apart. Some might say that Zak is riffing off Jkaen, but actually I think they agreed on their story in the wolf thread before posting.
Keep in mind that Zak doesn't want to use his fake name if he can. He would rather draw as little attention to it as possible. Jkaen's role we now know is engineer. He gives us an explanation that he doesn't want to compromise the seer or the baner by reducing the amount of roles available. However as I just explained that's exactly what Zak wants, more anonymity. So he gets Jkaen to post a facsimile of what he's going to post and start the idea of simply saying they don't have a name instead of their role name like Engineer or Technician.
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You are determined to link me and Zak aren't you. Surely I am not the only one against a role claim at that point, why not use the same connection to point to guilt of anybody else who didnt claim then?
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Selrahc Wrote:Also. Waterbat has opened up a telepathic channel with me. So that's another confirmation of his power if one were still needed. Something I've broached with him in our PM's that I might as well bring up in the thread too. I am a little worried that it is waterbat behind the anonymous messages. His power and the "mindworm messages" seem similar thematically.
Well, yes, they seem similar, but I can't imagine Waterbat has more powers that allow him to send dreams. So I really don't believe he's behind it. Plus he's definitely Pro-town, or at the least, anti-NAP.
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Jkaen Wrote:You are determined to link me and Zak aren't you. Surely I am not the only one against a role claim at that point, why not use the same connection to point to guilt of anybody else who didnt claim then?
I held onto this for a couple days because I wasn't sure, but it kept bothering me how similar they were. Its not exactly the idea its the way its said that links me in your mind. Plus the whole thing with the pink writing seems like he's riffing off you, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
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That should read "that links you in my mind" 
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Lewwyn Wrote:I held onto this for a couple days because I wasn't sure, but it kept bothering me how similar they were. Its not exactly the idea its the way its said that links me in your mind. Plus the whole thing with the pink writing seems like he's riffing off you, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
He is riffing of me.. not the other way around. So maybe he is trying to buddy up so i don't know.. all this happens now when he is revealed guilty.
I did notice other than maniac, he did seem to be the only one really keen to follow up my ideas without commiting, which i did find suspicious, why say various things about my theory without ever actually voting you?
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Votecount:
Sareln: Brick, Meiz, thestick, Jkaen, Selrahc
Jkaen: Waterbat, Bobchillingworth, Lewwyn
Brick: Sareln
Maniac: Molach
Not voting: Maniac
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Maniac, would you mind voting so we know what you're thinking? There's only 12 hours left in the day.
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I feel I should be doing more to hunt Nappies here, but my 2 absences have left me a bit out of phase, and combined with the hostile aggressive tone of a lot of posts, I have to admit I am struggling to motivate myself to read through again to try and draw more conclusions
Will think on a bit harder about various factors before signing up for the next one, sorry village
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Sareln Wrote:@Meiz, it was you and me on the block before the Mattimeo push started (based on my reading of the votes. Lack of tallies is painful). If Zakalwe and I were both NAP, why the hell would I start a push on Mattimeo with Zak's opening instead of letting it just get into a knife-fight between me and you?
Hell, let's back that reasoning out even further. Why would I be pushing the drone saga as NAP. That's a losing strategy, since this saga does and will terminate pre-Lylo.
You're referring to this post, http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=754
And Zak's post above.
The way I see it, bandwagon against me wasn't gonna fly. It was based on a misunderstanding. Serdoa switched later to Qgqq (for making an easy vote against me) and I think it was only a matter of time before Lewwyn would have switched as well. The votes where:
thestick (4) : Sareln, waterbat, Maniac, BobCW, Mattimeo
Sareln (3) : BRickAstley, Meiz, Slowcheetah
Meiz (2): Lewwyn, Qgqq
Maniac (1) : thestick
Qgqq (1): Serdoa
Jkaen (1): Molach
Couple of hours later Zak attacks Mattimeo and ~30 minutes later you make your post against him.
So IMO there was never going to be any knife fight between us two, more likely between thestick and you. But thestick was basically eating out of Nap-Injera's hand. Making the case against Mattimeo makes perfect sense when considering the situation. After all, you had perfect metagame reasons to help to justify the vote.
If you are indeed Napper, then metagame was going to be against you anyway sooner or later. So I don't understand why taking Mattimeo and Brick down before you go down would be such a bad call for Nappers.
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