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WW15 - Chiron is a harsh mistress

Quote:does only seem to show up when his name pops in red.

I'm loath to show up at all, since I'm in the middle of packing up for a house move tomorrow. But I'm watching the game, and I'd rather you all not make a mistake. In a more general sense, I've tried to present arguments, and so far they've all turned out to be wrong. I'm feeling a little bit demoralized and lost with the whole thing. But I'm still not wanting to let the village fail.

Quote: In fact, maybe the NAP role-blocker knew this entire time that there was no village baner so he could safely claim it as cover.

I feel this argument is pretty nonsensical. So far the only people with cover identities have been aliens. The GM giving a fake *role* to claim is just a level of meta beyond sense. Lots and lots and lots of wolves have had incriminating abilities. They have never been given a "fake ability" that they knew they could safely claim, but have been forced to rely on their own ingenuity. The concept is just ludicrous. "You know there is no baner in the village" is not something that makes sense in a role PM, and you're not basing it on this game, or any other from RB. Essentially, you're just making up a random theory because the facts don't fit your prejudice.
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Lol. It's what I do, selrahc.

I wasn't trying to say you were directly given a safe-to-claim ability. But the knowledge of no-baner would allow you to do so.

In the multipack game, one of the wolf-packs was given knowledge that there was no seer. Which i believe they then falsely claimed seer. It was ww13 when I was a tall wolf. Is that the kind of reference to RB you were looking for?
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Bigger himself was involved in that fiasco, not to completely meta-game, but I wouldn't be the least but surprised if he paid homage to that game by placing something similar in here.
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Heh, there's more people posting in the lurker thread than here. Probably talking about how doomed we are tongue



Vote tally:


Maniac: Molach, Bobchillingworth

Selrahc: Meiz, Waterbat


Not voting: Maniac, Selrahc, Brick






My thoughts on Selrahc:


He could be a wolf, but he doesn't seem as likely a suspect as Brick, Meiz or Maniac. About as likely as Molach, although I still think that diary thing is weird. Why would a wolf fake-claim baner to stay alive, when the other person up was also a wolf? It could be that Selrahc's power was much more powerful than Injera's, and keeping himself alive was a priority- this might make sense if he is roleblocker, since that seems like a much better wolf role than delayed-lyncher, but surely the pack could have done more to prevent two wolves being up at the same time, like throwing more votes on Lewwyn- they wouldn't even have needed too many to lynch him, since Zak could double-vote.


Third faction / SK makes some more sense, although I'm seeing a lot more conjecture than evidence (albeit that's describes the cases against every suspect now). I'm eager to get any more use out of my power that I can, so I could scan Selrahc tonight to find out what his deal is.


Caveats:

* If he dies in the night it's a waste, although we'll find out whether he's village or not that way too tongue

* If I die in the night it's a wash obviously, although that may be a sign that I was on to something.

* If Selrahc is a wolf I won't detect anything, unless he's hiding behind an alter ego for some weird reason (doctors aren't particularly suspicious).

* It's also possible that Selrahc is indeed 3rd party, but is using his real role, although I think this is unlikely as well. Surely a mindworm or something similarly nasty would have a cover ID.



The other person I was thinking of scanning is Waterbat- no offense Waterbat, I think you're not NAP, but your ability does make sense as being part of a larger messenger role which allows for these weird anon messages. Anyway, I think that's all a diversion and not worth actually voting on, at least not now.



Btw, something which came to me while writing this post- during the Injera night lynch, Zak did try to start getting votes on Maniac- would a wolf do that if Maniac is one of them? It never went anywhere, so maybe so. Hard to say, I could see the case for either possibility. Hoping Waterbat can share with us tomorrow what the deal with Maniac is. Based on what he said his ability is named I think I can guess anyway, but I'm less interested in exactly what he can do and more about whether he has a legit reason for keeping so much to himself, and what read Waterbat has got on his village status.
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Didn't hear from maniac yet.

You can scan me - I'm talent empath. I have to say, it is curious noone until now accused me of being responsible for those messages as well. It does fit with empath! I think the lack was due to strong voices keeping the village on task instead of getting sidetracked by the whispering and worm pictures. With the death of the stick, I'm clueless. But meiz's power also fits with it too, right? Or did tasunke build the project end of their tunnel.

I'm being lazy now - will check then.
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Need to continue on the role-blocker path.
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Best dating advice on RB: When you can't hide your unit, go in fast and hard. -- Sullla
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Sorry for being absent. I'm moving house too. I PMed waterbat my role now. If I'm suddenly killed by NAP now, you know who to suspect. wink
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Regarding NAP's choice of thestick, I think they're just targeting people who are suspected by no one. It increases the chance we mislynch someone.
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I believe BRickAstley is the whisperer/picture sender, and sent that pic hoping we'd do the opposite.
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Umm. So let me get this right,

1) I reveal your power, you surely get night killed.

2) but if you get night killed, I'm supposed to be suspect

Bob (and everyone),

Give me some time. I'm inclined to reveal in full - but want to work with maniac a little.
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