WW15 - Chiron is a harsh mistress

[Molach]

I'm pretty busy this weekend. Will check in saturday, read new developments and adjust vote accordingly. I'll vote maniac or brick unless someone has confessed.

[Bobchillingworth]

Maybe they really don't have baner??

Why would the NAP have a baner? Do you mean role-blocker?


I kind of want this game to be over soon just so I can find out who drew these pictures :P


Surely the picture was sent by whoever sent the other "Planet messages" previously, since the stupid phrase "antichild" appears again (doesn't that just mean an adult, anyway?). Misdirection? Probably. I am not particularly inclined to follow the terse demands of unknown parties. If the mindworms or whatever have something actually useful to say to the village, they should do so more proactively. Of course having us not only ignore the message, but intentionally defy it could be the intent as well. Best to act as though we never received it, until the sender(s) have earned some actual credibility.


If it's just wolves at work, screw them :neenernee

[Meiz]

Based on general scummyest game, Selrahc. I think he's been spectator for the whole game, not getting the feeling at all that he'd be interested to help village catch Nappers.

[BRickAstley]

Goodness, a lot sure has happened since I signed off. Lemme take some time to analyze what's gone down. Especially the fact that thestick got lynched, that's ridiculously fishy to me with both bob and selrahc seeming better choices.

And now that's two pictures involving "me" as well as getting two dreams? Goodness someone really wants me dead it seems.

[BRickAstley]

I think this would probably be the biggest reason that thestick got nightkilled:

* thestick: almost no chance of being a wolf due to metagame; it strains all credulity to think that two wolves were neighbors with each other. Chance of being the roleblocker: None.

It makes basic sense to the wolves I would think, if they can't get him mislynched then why not go ahead and kill him. Either that, or there is some reason that they didn't want Bob or Selrahc to die.

Which come to think of it, I still have this feeling of "Why isn't Selrahc dead?" He's claimed baner with no way that we have to prove it, and only did so under extreme duress. Waterbat, I know you talked with him, did he give you any useful information about his past?

And also feel free to explain it yourself as well Selrahc.

[Selrahc]

and only did so under extreme duress.

Damn bloody right I did!
I'm sorry... you want me to claim baner under maybe a slight sense of trepidation? With a little insincere coaxing? Claiming baner is stupid. The only reason to do it is under extreme duress or for some greater purpose.

But I'd also point out, I did it without fear of anybody else claiming baner. And if I was a NAP, imagine how badly *that* could have gone. With two NAP's on the block, one of them for some reason claims a power to save themself. This pushes the other NAP onto the block and gets them lynched... but then the real baner hollers up and gets the NAP who escaped the lynch killed as well next day. Its an incredibly risky gamble. More than that, it doesn't make any sense at all.


What I would say about my own survival is that obviously the NAP aren't too impressed with my play to date, for which I can't really blame them, and are hoping that their roleblocker will keep me locked down for the entire rest of the game. Possibly because the roleblocker is their last remaining player.

[waterbat]

Are you saying they were more impressed with thestick's play than yours?

Selrahc - what do you think of molach's mention of thestick just before he died? Do you take it as a distancing attempt?

Also I didn't contemplate there just being 1 NAP left. That gives us some extra time - not reaching LyLo until 3 are left.

[waterbat]

[quote=Bobchillingworth]Why would the NAP have a baner? Do you mean role-blocker?


I kind of want this game to be over soon just so I can find out who drew these pictures :P
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missed this post earlier along with meiz's. Yeah I meant role-blocker. The first dream hasn't been proven false, but I don't see how it fits. If we are to believe the first picture, worms are good. The told us maniac was the role-blocker and that brick needs to die. But ..... What the hell is the second pic? We didn't heed them, so their heart is broken, and now they kill us?

Haha. Or. Bear with me here.

The man in the picture was thestick. The worm's host just died and the worm is sad. Bigger might be making these pictures himself.

Anyway.... @Meiz: selrahc does only seem to show up when his name pops in red. In fact, maybe the NAP role-blocker knew this entire time that there was no village baner so he could safely claim it as cover.

Still waiting on maniac too

[Meiz]

Also bigger trolling me with inclusion of worm in write up. Meiz, if the stick isn't worm, what do you think about the power you gained? Why do you think he was interested in powers gained?

Forgot this. My guess is, because his partner Injera + me gained powers while he didn't. Would make sense hed gain something as well. I'm still waiting one more since the corrent one kind of... sucks.

Do Nap notes + "mysterious deaths" take turns? The double kill is because of delayed kill ability Injera had. So my guess is 1 nap and 1 serial killer left. Mine and Injeras power doesn't make sense otherwise. I bet Selrahc is either nap or sk. More likely sk, in wich case it makes sense to play it riskly and claim baner, concidering his situation. Death would mean losing.

[Meiz]

In other words, I would be protected from mysterious deaths (=sk kills) while nap can still kill me. One Nap (injera) was also protected.

Sorry for short messages, relying on phone for the weekend