WW15 - Chiron is a harsh mistress

[Bobchillingworth]

However am extremely flattered you think Im NAP and have both managed to push out hundred posts and a diary and still appear villagerish.

To be fair, I don't think you actually wrote that diary- probably it was a joint effort between the Brothers Novice and Zakawe



I'd be willing to change my vote to Brick, but I'm sure that if he looks like he's going to lynch he'll also write another big defense post that makes me think "oh, he sounds so much like a villager, it can't be him!". Like I said in my overlong post above (or meant to say, my wording wasn't great), I think everyone except Selrahc sounds like a villager, and yet I see less justification to vote for Selrahc than the rest based on the facts of the game At a certain point, I think that I and the rest of the village have to accept that whoever are the remaining enemies, they are playing very well and honestly have probably come across as better "villagers" than some of the actual villagers we've mislynched.


So, right now I'm voting for you, because although I still keep going back and forth, I just the basis of some of your village credibility suspect enough to make you a better candidate.


Although reading over my post again for editing before submitting it, now I really am wondering about Brick. Arghh. I kind of want this game to be over already now I should be going to bed anyway now, it's very late, I'll sleep on this. Still got a while.





Waterbat, did you decide to contact one of the Drone Saga people?

[Bobchillingworth]

Apparently I didn't edit my post enough-

I just the basis of some of your village credibility

"just" should be "just on".

[waterbat]

I read that post by selrahc. I Don't want to vote a guy who has no capacity to defend. unvote

This has bad repercussions regardless of his alignment. Bigger, can we pause?

[Molach]

Waterbat contacted me, for the record.

What post by Selrahc?

[Selrahc]

Laptop broken, internet non-extant. Playing via phone, ergo I'll be curt.

I think Brick is a wolf.
Waterbat could have roleblocked and killed lewwyn if he was a wolf. Rules him put totally.
Bob is definitely the name seer, and we can be sure that is a village ability due to Marr. I protected him last night, to apparently no effect.

Molach or Brick then? The answer is easily Brick. Molach's diary may be fakeable but it is easily a more compelling bit of evidence than anything Brick has conjured up in his defence. Coupled with a clearly anti-village power use by Brick and we have a clear favorite. Brick has been dancing in the gallows for half the game, but escaped each time. I feel his next dance should be his last.

[waterbat]

The one in the planet fall PBEM.

My last post actually cross posted a ways back as page didn't update on my phone. Now that I've read it - nice death post, Meiz.

Molach,
I'm not sure we have 2 NAP, you seem convinced. I'm not bricks NAP buddy, but I came in ready to vote selrahc or brick.

This part of the post caught my eye:

But still am confused about meiz kill. I had practically decided to lynch meiz or brick today. They could easily have gotten him mislynched for the win.

That might just be the reason for the Meiz kill. I think it was pretty clear that you would vote brick if Meiz was dead. If there are indeed 2 NAP, they only would need your vote. Killing Brick wraps it up, right?

Bob came in with a molach or brick mindset. If Bob is innocent and the Meiz kill was meant to direct votes at bigger, that doesn't leave room for 2 NAP

In any event, I'm leaning toward the 1 nap + 1 possible sk role.

Also - you have 1 vote on you. I don't think that makes you 'mislynch of the day'!

X-post with selrahc. Haha. Is this the brick push I just described above or have I made another way for him to dance out of it?

If you have phone, we need not pause!

[Selrahc]

Not asking for pause. Via phone or at work I can use internet. Just can't play civ.

[waterbat]

Yeah sorry, I asked for pause in your stead.

3:30am. Must sleep. Think on my post molach, bob. Molach - if you want, use the private phone.

[Molach]

But Selrahc, we are supposedly looking for two NAP. So unless you are NAP & lying there must be some flaw somewhere. I am villager.

While BRick might be NAP and is who I'll lynch today, must be something wrong in your reasoning.

Assuming you (& bob) are the real thing I'm not sure if the zakalwe-kill could be blocked anyway, they had to block you to stop you protecting Serdoa. Or block serdoa and kill you, they did not have enough blocking power that night. And Zakalwe was, for all practical purposes, dead anyway, both by actions and the name just waiting to be picked up by a name-seer on the loose and all that.

Well that is how I see it, if not then other possibility is that bob & you planned the whole thing together, or possibly that you are alone in this and that you have a role-name of doctor but are still the evil blocker somehow.

But we can see who gets killed after BRick lynch. And if there are two NAP among bob, selrahc and waterbat then enjoy the win, good game & all that.

Bob, find one passage/post in the diary that any language-analytical-expert think is not written by me (compare with 'normal' posts in thread) and I'll vote myself for lynch. You wont. Unless you are NAP and pay the expert to fake the result...


EDIT: Waterbat. Yes mabye just 1 NAP and 1 'other'. Hopefully a 'survivor'. Not sure about SK, only 1 kill most nights, alternate killing? Also the dream implicating maniac has been proved false, it was a set up. I did an analysis early on that sort of proved that there would be 5 evil guys. No more time atm, there is more info revealed by latest batch of villagers we should look into.

Aaaanyway, I'll lynch BRick today, not gonna change that vote. And then let tomorrow come, if it may.

[Selrahc]

I must admit, I'm basing my thinking around just a single nap left. There may well be a third party too, in which case Bob and Waterbat are both back on the table. But taking down NAP first should be the priority, as evidence suggests that the NAP are probably the ones killing.