WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[Molach]

Back.

Gaspar better vote me again. I said I was gonna post last evening, but bought FTL and got hooked instead.

That said, I didn't understand the whole reason for your vote. Because I lurked my first game when we were wolves (or wolf + pup) together? Warning not to lurk this game? Read last game, I posted a bit there. Only beat by WaterBatman

Okay, my first joke vote on Selrahc, for lurking the first 30 minutes.
Then I voted Sareln, that was for his vote on Tasunke. Tasunke acting strange with self-vote (he did this in signup thread too, before roles were dealt out) so WHAM votes Tasunke. I felt that was easy vote & possible no-tell first day's mislynch attempt. And I can keep vote there a bit longer.

Now I was pretty suspicious about thestick last game, even after he got himself cleared by metagame, right up to he got nightkilled. I can see his first post as a bit fishing for other people's views, and there are several strong players who called it out that cannot all be mafia. So not a terrible place to start the first lynching.

Zakalwe is looking good now.

[Qgqqqqq]

@thestick, what I meant was no pticular quote mor a general theme.

Um after that (frankl wierd post) catwalk is looking suspicious again, but ill sayuberfish for a slew of wierd posts/arguements.

Ill also switch to novice in the hopes of making it count.

[Meiz]

Your whole line of argument against me is based on my Merovech vote, because I voted him based on trying to draw out the roleclaim

But it's not

[pindicator]

3am here. Roommate comes home with his date and they decide it's a great time to sing and play music. If the guy hadn't been going on and on about this girl for a week I would probably be an angry roommate right now. Instead I'll be an angry roommate tomorrow. Bad thing about anger: it wakes you up, so there's no going back to sleep for a little bit. May as well catch up here.

Thank you for letting me vent. Now for business:


Novice reads village to me; there's a difference to his play over the last few games. I also don't see the scumminess in thestick's posts.

Uberfish, what's with the mean spiritedness? You also get woken up in the middle of the night by drunk roommates?

Injera, I'm flattered, but what exactly have I done to warrant a mayor vote? Anyway, I like zak because I'm pretty confident I can spot the difference between wolf & village zak (so far, definite lean that he's village). I also like his reasoning, but he has a tendency to fall into confirmation bias.

This may be a bit of the pot calling the kettle black, but where's Rowain been? I remember him being more energetic on day 1

[Jkaen]

But it's not

You mean its really just about me not mentioning tansuke could be a wolf or lying when I commented that he had indeed roleclaimed? I just assumed you must have had more than that as voting for me with just that made no sense to me

[Azza]

@Azza, you've posted twice saying that waterbats post #29 confused you, hence the vote. Anything else you'd like to contribute?

I have nothing more to contribute at this stage, as it's little more than jumping at shadows at the moment.

To clarify (and highlight) why I'm voting for waterbat, is that I don't understand why if you were an innocent, you'd declare in big capital letters in your very first post that you're an innocent. It just doesn't add up.

[Mattimeo]

Too many people, no concrete information, I can't make sense of what's going on :/

Lots of people jumping on other people for minor things they say, any wonder why I'm trying to skip out on this whole process? Sure, I don't necessarily *need* to stay alive for a town win, but there's little point in playing if I can't at least make it to the parts of the game I actually enjoy (fewer people, more known info, actual relations to dead scum to base arguments off, rather than theorised relations to possible scum)...

Voting Tasunke. His claim seems to eliminate town-aligned power roles for him, leaving open vanilla town, or all scum. So he has the highest simple chance of being scum. And if it's wrong, he's not a power role, so we're not losing anything too badly.

[Jkaen]

Too many people, no concrete information, I can't make sense of what's going on :/

Lots of people jumping on other people for minor things they say, any wonder why I'm trying to skip out on this whole process? Sure, I don't necessarily *need* to stay alive for a town win, but there's little point in playing if I can't at least make it to the parts of the game I actually enjoy (fewer people, more known info, actual relations to dead scum to base arguments off, rather than theorised relations to possible scum)...

Voting Tasunke. His claim seems to eliminate town-aligned power roles for him, leaving open vanilla town, or all scum. So he has the highest simple chance of being scum. And if it's wrong, he's not a power role, so we're not losing anything too badly.

Thats not terrible reasoning for now. Hopefully something a bit more scum looking will come around, but until then

Tansuke

[Serdoa]

Too many people, no concrete information, I can't make sense of what's going on :/

Lots of people jumping on other people for minor things they say, any wonder why I'm trying to skip out on this whole process? Sure, I don't necessarily *need* to stay alive for a town win, but there's little point in playing if I can't at least make it to the parts of the game I actually enjoy (fewer people, more known info, actual relations to dead scum to base arguments off, rather than theorised relations to possible scum)...

Voting Tasunke. His claim seems to eliminate town-aligned power roles for him, leaving open vanilla town, or all scum. So he has the highest simple chance of being scum. And if it's wrong, he's not a power role, so we're not losing anything too badly.

Actually Jkaen, I think that is one of the dumbest arguments I've heard in a long time. Mattimeo states that Tasunke can only be vanilla town or scum because of his claim and therefore has the highest chance of being scum. Thats bullshit. If we believe that Tasunke has said the truth, he is a vanilla villager. %-chance to be scum: 0. If we believe that Tasunke lied, he could as well be a village-PR. %-chance to be scum: As high as for everyone else.

I mean really, either you believe Tasunkes claim. In that case there is no reason to vote for him at all. Or you believe that he lied - in that case, do you believe he is scum (then of course vote for him) or do you believe he wanted to not give away being a PR (in that case don't vote). But voting for him because "even if he said the truth, we at least don't lose a PR"... really?

Mattimeo

[Jkaen]

Actually no Serdoa, thats not the case.

I believe that villager Tansuke would not lie about his role (werewolf tansuke would obviously) hence he is not one of the X power roles we have, hence he has a (say) 5/20 chance of being a WW rather than a 5/26