WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[Gaspar]

Damn you, Pindicator. I just can't fucking read you at all. One post "scummiest thing ever." Next one "no way scum would do that, sounds so village." If it was someone less skilled, I could easily write it off but you're pretty good at this stuff. Arrrgh.

I'm going to go relax and let it roll around in my head and come back and make a "final" vote. Did we ever come to a decision on "fake deadline?" I don't get the impression we're collectively together enough to do this, but I also don't fear the scum coming in and swinging the voting because they still need another mislynch if my math is correct and they wouldn't want to reveal themselves until its the game decider. If we think we can line up village votes pre-deadline, I'm down with that.

[Meiz]

seriously though - its your votes against me that don't make me feel any better about you. I think we are at an impasse and I would also not mind persuing other targets.

Seems like you're voting me because I voted you. Ok. What puts Jkaen so high on your list?

[Meiz]

Waterbat

[waterbat]

Meiz, any new reason? or not enough of a following has developed on Lewwyn?

[pindicator]

#1) C0p/ & p@st3 th1s p0st 1n @ t3xt 3d1t0r.
#2) F1nd & R3pl@c3 f0r v0w3ls: @ = -, 3 = -, 1 = -, 0 = -, * = -, / = -
#3) 3@s/ R3@d1ng!

D03s p0st 3486 m3@n G@sp@r 1s v1ll@g3? L00k1ng b@ck, h3 s33m3d t0 kn0w th@t 1ch@b0d h@d r*n 0*t 0f sh0ts, s0 wh/ d1d th3 w0lv3s k1ll 1ch@b0d @nd n0t n0v1c3 1f th3/ kn3w 1ch@b0d w@s 0*t 0f sh0ts?

L3ww/n + Jk@3n + (M31z 0r W@t3rb@t)


1 w@s th1nk1ng... wh/ d1d th3 w0lv3s k1ll 1ch@b0d 1nst3@d 0f n0v1c3? K1ll1ng n0v1c3 w0*ld h@v3 b33n @ b3tt3r k1ll t0 fr@m3 m3, b3c@*s3 n0v1c3 1s pr0b@bl/ th3 0nl/ p3rs0n wh0 th1nks 1 @m v1ll@g3. Pl*s 1ch@b0d w@s cl3@rl/ @g@1nst m3.

Th3/ w0*ld 0nl/ k1ll 1ch@b0d 1f th3/ th0*ght h3 h@d ch@rg3s l3ft. R3-r3@d1ng G@sp@r's 3486, 1t l00ks l1k3 h3 kn0ws 1ch@b0d d03sn't h@v3 ch@rg3s l3ft @nd 1s *ps3t @t m3 f0r dr@w1ng @tt3nt10n t0 th3 n*mb3r 0f ch@rg3s.

Th3r3f0r3, G@sp@r = v1ll@g3?


W1th w@t3rb@t, 1 sh0*ldn't l3t s*nk c0st b1@s cl3@r w@t3rb@t. /3s, 1 d3f3nd3d h1m, b*t m@/b3 1 w@s wr0ng t0. St1ll, 1 @m m0st p0s1t1v3 @b0*t L3ww/n b3c@*s3 0f r3@s0ns g1v3n b3f0r3. @nd 1 @m @lm0st @s s*r3 @b0*t jk@3n b3c@*s3 h3 h@s c0ntr1b*t3d Z3R0 1n th3 l@st 5 0r 6 d@/s (3v3n @ft3r h1s 3/3 h3@l3d, wh1ch 1'm gl@d t0 h3@r 1t 1s b3tt3r jk@3n). Th0s3 tw0 @r3 l@/1ng l0w.

B*t w@t3rb@t 0r M31z? 1 d0n't kn0w.

P0st 3551 m@k3s m3 th1nk w@t3rb@t. Wh/ w0*ld h3 s@/ h3 p*t d0wn th3 l1st 0nl/ b3c@*s3 h3 f3lt @ g*n w@s t0 h1s h3@d? Th3r3 w@s z3r0 v0t3s @nd l1ttl3 pr3ss*r3 0n h1m: 1t w@s @ll 0n m3 & m31z f0r th3 m0st p@rt. 1t pr0b@bl/ 1s b3tt3r t0 g*3ss n0w b3f0r3 w3 l0s3 n0v1c3. Pl*s, w@t3rb@t's v0t3 t0 M31z @ft3r h3 w@s v0t3d 0n r3@ll/ l00ks sc*mm/ t0 m3.

0k@/, waterbat th3n. B*t 1 pr3f3r L3ww/n b3c@*s3 1 th1nk h3 1s th3 m0st d@ng3r0*s.

[pindicator]

#1) C0p/ & p@st3 th1s p0st 1n @ t3xt 3d1t0r.
#2) F1nd & R3pl@c3 f0r v0w3ls: @ = -, 3 = -, 1 = -, 0 = -, * = -, / = -
#3) 3@s/ R3@d1ng!

D03s p0st 3486 m3@n G@sp@r 1s v1ll@g3? L00k1ng b@ck, h3 s33m3d t0 kn0w th@t 1ch@b0d h@d r*n 0*t 0f sh0ts, s0 wh/ d1d th3 w0lv3s k1ll 1ch@b0d @nd n0t n0v1c3 1f th3/ kn3w 1ch@b0d w@s 0*t 0f sh0ts?

L3ww/n + Jk@3n + (M31z 0r W@t3rb@t)

1 w@s th1nk1ng... wh/ d1d th3 w0lv3s k1ll 1ch@b0d 1nst3@d 0f n0v1c3? K1ll1ng n0v1c3 w0*ld h@v3 b33n @ b3tt3r k1ll t0 fr@m3 m3, b3c@*s3 n0v1c3 1s pr0b@bl/ th3 0nl/ p3rs0n wh0 th1nks 1 @m v1ll@g3. Pl*s 1ch@b0d w@s cl3@rl/ @g@1nst m3.

Th3/ w0*ld 0nl/ k1ll 1ch@b0d 1f th3/ th0*ght h3 h@d ch@rg3s l3ft. R3-r3@d1ng G@sp@r's 3486, 1t l00ks l1k3 h3 kn0ws 1ch@b0d d03sn't h@v3 ch@rg3s l3ft @nd 1s *ps3t @t m3 f0r dr@w1ng @tt3nt10n t0 th3 n*mb3r 0f ch@rg3s.

Th3r3f0r3, G@sp@r = v1ll@g3?

W1th w@t3rb@t, 1 sh0*ldn't l3t s*nk c0st b1@s cl3@r w@t3rb@t. /3s, 1 d3f3nd3d h1m, b*t m@/b3 1 w@s wr0ng t0. St1ll, 1 @m m0st p0s1t1v3 @b0*t L3ww/n b3c@*s3 0f r3@s0ns g1v3n b3f0r3. @nd 1 @m @lm0st @s s*r3 @b0*t jk@3n b3c@*s3 h3 h@s c0ntr1b*t3d Z3R0 1n th3 l@st 5 0r 6 d@/s (3v3n @ft3r h1s 3/3 h3@l3d, wh1ch 1'm gl@d t0 h3@r 1t 1s b3tt3r jk@3n). Th0s3 tw0 @r3 l@/1ng l0w.

B*t w@t3rb@t 0r M31z? 1 d0n't kn0w.

P0st 3551 m@k3s m3 th1nk w@t3rb@t. Wh/ w0*ld h3 s@/ h3 p*t d0wn th3 l1st 0nl/ b3c@*s3 h3 f3lt @ g*n w@s t0 h1s h3@d? Th3r3 w@s z3r0 v0t3s @nd l1ttl3 pr3ss*r3 0n h1m: 1t w@s @ll 0n m3 & m31z f0r th3 m0st p@rt. 1t pr0b@bl/ 1s b3tt3r t0 g*3ss n0w b3f0r3 w3 l0s3 n0v1c3. Pl*s, w@t3rb@t's v0t3 t0 M31z @ft3r h3 w@s v0t3d 0n r3@ll/ l00ks sc*mm/ t0 m3.

0k@/, waterbat th3n. B*t 1 pr3f3r L3ww/n b3c@*s3 1 th1nk h3 1s th3 m0st d@ng3r0*s.

[pindicator]

#1) C0p/ & p@st3 th1s p0st 1n @ t3xt 3d1t0r.
#2) F1nd & R3pl@c3 f0r v0w3ls: @ = -, 3 = -, 1 = -, 0 = -, * = -, / = -
#3) 3@s/ R3@d1ng!

D03s p0st 3486 m3@n G@sp@r 1s v1ll@g3? L00k1ng b@ck, h3 s33m3d t0 kn0w th@t 1ch@b0d h@d r*n 0*t 0f sh0ts, s0 wh/ d1d th3 w0lv3s k1ll 1ch@b0d @nd n0t n0v1c3 1f th3/ kn3w 1ch@b0d w@s 0*t 0f sh0ts?

L3ww/n + Jk@3n + (M31z 0r W@t3rb@t)

1 w@s th1nk1ng... wh/ d1d th3 w0lv3s k1ll 1ch@b0d 1nst3@d 0f n0v1c3? K1ll1ng n0v1c3 w0*ld h@v3 b33n @ b3tt3r k1ll t0 fr@m3 m3, b3c@*s3 n0v1c3 1s pr0b@bl/ th3 0nl/ p3rs0n wh0 th1nks 1 @m v1ll@g3. Pl*s 1ch@b0d w@s cl3@rl/ @g@1nst m3.

Th3/ w0*ld 0nl/ k1ll 1ch@b0d 1f th3/ th0*ght h3 h@d ch@rg3s l3ft. R3-r3@d1ng G@sp@r's 3486, 1t l00ks l1k3 h3 kn0ws 1ch@b0d d03sn't h@v3 ch@rg3s l3ft @nd 1s *ps3t @t m3 f0r dr@w1ng @tt3nt10n t0 th3 n*mb3r 0f ch@rg3s.

Th3r3f0r3, G@sp@r = v1ll@g3?

W1th w@t3rb@t, 1 sh0*ldn't l3t s*nk c0st b1@s cl3@r w@t3rb@t. /3s, 1 d3f3nd3d h1m, b*t m@/b3 1 w@s wr0ng t0. St1ll, 1 @m m0st p0s1t1v3 @b0*t L3ww/n b3c@*s3 0f r3@s0ns g1v3n b3f0r3. @nd 1 @m @lm0st @s s*r3 @b0*t jk@3n b3c@*s3 h3 h@s c0ntr1b*t3d Z3R0 1n th3 l@st 5 0r 6 d@/s (3v3n @ft3r h1s 3/3 h3@l3d, wh1ch 1'm gl@d t0 h3@r 1t 1s b3tt3r jk@3n). Th0s3 tw0 @r3 l@/1ng l0w.

B*t w@t3rb@t 0r M31z? 1 d0n't kn0w.

P0st 3551 m@k3s m3 th1nk w@t3rb@t. Wh/ w0*ld h3 s@/ h3 p*t d0wn th3 l1st 0nl/ b3c@*s3 h3 f3lt @ g*n w@s t0 h1s h3@d? Th3r3 w@s z3r0 v0t3s @nd l1ttl3 pr3ss*r3 0n h1m: 1t w@s @ll 0n m3 & m31z f0r th3 m0st p@rt. 1t pr0b@bl/ 1s b3tt3r t0 g*3ss n0w b3f0r3 w3 l0s3 n0v1c3. Pl*s, w@t3rb@t's v0t3 t0 M31z @ft3r h3 w@s v0t3d 0n r3@ll/ l00ks sc*mm/ t0 m3.

0k@/, waterbat th3n. B*t 1 pr3f3r L3ww/n b3c@*s3 1 th1nk h3 1s th3 m0st d@ng3r0*s.[/quote]

[waterbat]

i found it odd that jkaen just sent in a single vote with no accompanying text at all. noone else commented on that. I was surprised that he showed up on voting tally and had to go back through to find it.

@pindicator - i didnt feel like a gun was to my head - i was putting my list out there if it was a gun to my head list. That was the weird thing - i was just pondering that as I was catching up on the thread - "How would I rank them if I absolutely had to chose now?" and then read Gaspar's post where he did just that.

Gaspar - are you set on today's candidate? I've been going back and forth on pindicator this whole game... but if there was a candidate villager who was going to be set up today - i think it would be him. later push on me could be to get 2 villagers up there and make sure a mislynch happens.

Also other votes (lewwyn) could easily be distancing - not discounting the fact that he could be in that group.

[waterbat]

#i) Copy & paste this post in a text editor.
#2) Find & Replace for vowels: a = -, e = -, i = -, o = -, u = -, y = -
#e) easy Reading!

Does post e486 mean Gaspar is village? Looking back, he seemed to know that ichabod had run out of shots, so why did the wolves kill ichabod and not novice if they knew ichabod was out of shots?

Lewwyn + Jkaen + (Meiz or Waterbat)

i was thinking... why did the wolves kill ichabod instead of novice? Killing novice would have been a better kill to frame me, because novice is probably the only person who thinks i am village. Plus ichabod was clearly against me.

They would only kill ichabod if they thought he had charges left. Re-reading Gaspar's e486, it looks like he knows ichabod doesn't have charges left and is upset at me for drawing attention to the number of charges.

Therefore, Gaspar = village?

With waterbat, i shouldn't let sunk cost bias clear waterbat. yes, i defended him, but maybe i was wrong to. Still, i am most positive about Lewwyn because of reasons given before. and i am almost as sure about jkaen because he has contributed ZeRo in the last 5 or 6 days (even after his eye healed, which i'm glad to hear it is better jkaen). Those two are laying low.

But waterbat or Meiz? i don't know.

Post e55i makes me think waterbat. Why would he say he put down the list only because he felt a gun was to his head? There was zero votes and little pressure on him: it was all on me & meiz for the most part. it probably is better to guess now before we lose novice. Plus, waterbat's vote to Meiz after he was voted on really looks scummy to me.

okay, waterbat then. But i prefer Lewwyn because i think he is the most dangerous.

i did:
cat > 3565.txt
sed 'y/@310*\//aeiouy/' < 3565.txt

but i think it worked out mostly ok.

I didnt have a gun to my head - i said like gaspar - IF i had a gun to my head , here's what i would spit out at the time. What purpose would I have for putting it out there as mafia? can't think of one.

[pindicator]

N0v1c3 wh@t p*ll3d y0* @w@/ fr0m M31z @nd 0nt0 h1s t@rg3t?

Meiz!

b3c@*s3 jk3@n 1s m0r3 1nt3r3st3d 1n cl3@r1ng m31z th@n f1nd1ng w0lv3s 0r p*sh1ng @g@1nst m3!!!