PBEM 45 Vets Tech Thread

[regoarrarr]

Also agree with Ichabod that I'd prefer to not use a mod

[Ruff_Hi]

I like pindicator's idea, would like to humbly suggest an expansion:

6 points: FIN
5 points: EXP
4 points: CRE, SPI
3 points: PHI, ORG, IND
2 points: CHA, IMP
1 point: AGG
0 points: PRO

Come up with similar rankings for civs, should be determined by mapmaker and lurkers. Double reverse snake pick as discussed. Point total for leader and civ may not exceed 9. For each unused point, maybe give the player some gold?

So Rego cornered me on gmail chat and we hashed out a proposal for restricting leaders & civs:

* You can pick one of FIN, EXP, ORG, India, Inca
* If you pick one of the above, then you cannot pick SPI, PHI, IND, CRE, dutch, viking

Thoughts?
Too restrictive on the top-end stuff? Anything we left out?
Scooter will be back tomorrow so he will also want to input on it, but we can refine as much as possible until then

Which way are we heading re restrictions? I strongly prefer Catwalk's suggestion as it leaves all options on the table but at a cost.

[Ruff_Hi]

Regarding Ruff proposal, I wouldn't care that much about using a mod. But I think it's too much of a hassle

Also, prefer to avoid a mod here.

Also agree with Ichabod that I'd prefer to not use a mod

Ok - noted. If I really want a particular leader for storyboarding purposes, I will just have to pick that leader.

I'll also submit my flag, color request to Commodore.

[pindicator]

I like pindicator's idea, would like to humbly suggest an expansion:

6 points: FIN
5 points: EXP
4 points: CRE, SPI
3 points: PHI, ORG, IND
2 points: CHA, IMP
1 point: AGG
0 points: PRO

Come up with similar rankings for civs, should be determined by mapmaker and lurkers. Double reverse snake pick as discussed. Point total for leader and civ may not exceed 9. For each unused point, maybe give the player some gold?

So Rego cornered me on gmail chat and we hashed out a proposal for restricting leaders & civs:

* You can pick one of FIN, EXP, ORG, India, Inca
* If you pick one of the above, then you cannot pick SPI, PHI, IND, CRE, dutch, viking

Thoughts?
Too restrictive on the top-end stuff? Anything we left out?
Scooter will be back tomorrow so he will also want to input on it, but we can refine as much as possible until then

Which way are we heading re restrictions? I strongly prefer Catwalk's suggestion as it leaves all options on the table but at a cost.

I think we can trim our restrictions down a little. But Catwalk is seriously undervaluing ORG for a toroid water-heavy map, IMO. I'd take Mehmed or Darius in an instant with his proposal.

[regoarrarr]

I'd be okay if the mapmaker and/or a group of friendly (knowledgeable) lurkers wanted to come up with such a list, but until I see such a list, I think we're on our own to come up with any restrictions we want.

[Ruff_Hi]

ORG needs to be given more points.

On the civ side, what about ...

Vikings, Dutch: 3
India, Inca: 2
Rome: 1
Others: 0

[pindicator]

We are getting more complicated; I was hoping to keep the ban list simple and short

Actually, I was even thinking of simplifying it further, but I would like to hear scooter weigh in on what the latest proposal is.

If there's a lot of support for a point-based system, I can put a proposal together

[Ichabod]

I liked Pindicator/Rego suggestion. I was thinking of what to pick under those restrictions and I was coming up with loads of interesting choices. This makes me think that the proposal is a succesful one (I was thinking about a lot of not-that-common picks).

[SevenSpirits]

Pindicator asked for my opinion on setup rules, so here's something I believe is pretty fair. I realize it's on the complex end.

You can have 5 points.

4: FIN
3: EXP, ORG, India, Inca
2: SPI, IND, CRE, Vikings, Dutch
1: PHI, Holy Rome, All other Agriculture civs
0: IMP, CHA, AGG, PRO, All other civs

Note, if you guys are banning some early wonders, IND should drop to 1.

[pindicator]

Thanks Seven. Nice to see at least some similarities to what I floated to you as an idea

+1 for using this