October 22nd, 2012, 18:40
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Junk civs (-1)
America
Celts
Germany
Japan
Khmer
Russia
Bad civs (0)
Arabia
Aztecs
Babylon
Ethiopia
Greece
Korea
Mongolia
Native Americans
Persia
Spain
Zulu
Decent civs (1)
Byzantium
Carthage
China
England
France
Egypt
Holy Roman Empire
Mali
Maya
Ottomans
Portugal
Rome
Sumeria
Good civs (2)
Dutch
Vikings
Inca
Great civs (3)
India
Also, good point about PRO being boring. No problem with effectively removing it. Maybe AGG at -1 instead?
October 22nd, 2012, 18:50
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(October 22nd, 2012, 18:25)scooter Wrote: We should also talk about turn order - by that I mean consecutive order not necessarily who starts. I think it's a given that Ichabod is first and Pindicator is last given time zones, that just leaves myself/Regoarrarr/Ruff to order, as I think we're all in the eastern time zone. Perhaps Ichabod-Ruff-Regoarrarr-scooter-Pindicator should be our order? I'd probably prefer to be last of the trio given that I'm often up fairly late should the turn come in later than usual. Ruff/Regoarrarr, you guys have a preference on who goes before who?
The play order should be by time zone (I am GMT-5 or NYC). Turn order can be random ... just start at the appropriate place in the play order.
Play Order (say)
- Ichabod
- Ruff
- Rego
- Scooter
- Pindicator
Mr MapMaker rolls a magic dice and I win(!) - thus going first. Then the Turn Order is ...
- Ruff
- Rego
- Scooter
- Pindicator
- Ichabod
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(October 22nd, 2014, 10:52)Caledorn Wrote: And ruff is officially banned from playing in my games as a reward for ruining my big surprise by posting silly and correct theories in the PB18 tech thread.
October 22nd, 2012, 18:54
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(October 22nd, 2012, 18:21)Catwalk Wrote: How about PRO being -1? It's far weaker than the other 0-point traits, at -1 it might get some love for a change. Maybe put a couple junk civs at -1?
(October 22nd, 2012, 18:33)SevenSpirits Wrote: (October 22nd, 2012, 18:21)Catwalk Wrote: How about PRO being -1? It's far weaker than the other 0-point traits, at -1 it might get some love for a change. Maybe put a couple junk civs at -1?
In fact, PRO would be just fine at -∞ (and probably AGG too). However, look at what effect that has. It essentially allows the following pairings:
EXP/ORG + India/Inca
FIN + Vikings/Dutch
... and that's it. So instead of people picking only the top traits and civs if we didn't have any restrictions, now (if anyone thinks it's worthwhile) you have someone picking only top traits and civs except they only get one trait! Is that really more interesting? I think it's less interesting.
I'm ok with PRO being -1 ... but how about we up some of the stronger traits so that if you want to use them, you have to partner them with PRO and a '-1' civ. I think there are some things that you can do with PRO ... but no one has really dug into it (enough).
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(October 22nd, 2014, 10:52)Caledorn Wrote: And ruff is officially banned from playing in my games as a reward for ruining my big surprise by posting silly and correct theories in the PB18 tech thread.
October 22nd, 2012, 19:22
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Catwalk - we're fine, we can handle our game setup  . Seven's original setup is fine, no need to encourage people to pick PRO.
Ruff - yes, we're in agreement, that's what I was saying. Sorry if it wasn't clear. I'm asking if we're ok with a play order of Ichabod-Ruff-Rego-scooter-Pin. Does that work? Once we get that confirmed, we're good to get a random number rolled to determine who gets first pick (and by extension who is last in the turn order).
October 22nd, 2012, 19:40
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My play times are the following (I'm at GMT -2 now, due to summer saving time):
13:30 - 15:30 GMT
20:30 - 01:00 GMT
Both are very reliable. During weekends, I can be extremely avaiable or non-avaiable, depending on each one. Normally, I'm avaiable for at least one turn.
October 22nd, 2012, 19:53
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Us west coasters are always last 
Catwalk, you can propose modifying that point system in the greens game but i think we are good with what seven put forward
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October 22nd, 2012, 20:03
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(October 22nd, 2012, 13:56)SevenSpirits Wrote: Pindicator asked for my opinion on setup rules, so here's something I believe is pretty fair. I realize it's on the complex end.
After seeing Catwalk's suggestion I have to laugh at this.
October 22nd, 2012, 20:26
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I think that I should go before Ruff. I generally can play quite frequently, so I think that would be faster. But I'm fine either way
October 22nd, 2012, 20:30
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That sounds good then. So Ichabod-Rego-Ruff-scooter-Pin.
I think we're all set then? Can you guys think of anything else that needs to be discussed before somebody picks a random number to determine who picks first? (please don't do this until we give the OK, that's always awkward when it comes too soon)
October 22nd, 2012, 20:32
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We are all agreeing on 2x Last to First for picking, right?
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