WW17 - A Game of Thrones

[pindicator]

I really don't see how this is helping the village at all. You basically play the typical wolf-lurker-game. Do easy votes which no one questions, add that you don't have time and hope to live through to Day 4 or 5 with no real data on you. I don't like that. Coco and you are right now imo our two best lynches.

Serdoa, why did you ignore the case on coco all day only to later say it was one of the two best lynches? The quote above is the only time i can find you even acknowledging the case, yet you pushed in two other directions pretty hard

[Serdoa]

Pindicator, I'm not exactly sure if I understand you. I did follow my case on Mattimeo which I felt was very good (which it wasn't unfortunately, sorry for that Matt). Apart from stating that coco would be a good lynch as well (and that only later because at the start the whole case on him consisted of several people posting his name without anything behind it, indicating they just want to get him to talk) what else should I have done?

[pindicator]

I wanted your reaction Serdoa.

Thanks!

[zakalwe]

I did some half-hearted rereading today, but I didn't get a lot of new insights.

That post by Thestick looks a little suspicious, though. First a couple of ambiguous comments and then jumping on Lewwyn based on some perceived inconsistency. Then... nothing more until the lynch. No comment on Lewwyn's response; so was he actually wanting clarification on anything, or was it just an excuse for parking his vote?

The reason I asked Lewwyn about it was that his retort to this was a kind of gentle rebuke, explicitly framing Thestick as a misguided villager. So maybe Thestick is Lewwyn's scumbuddy; the timing seems about right for jumping on the wagon, and it's pretty classic for a wolf to lash back at his buddy in those circumstances. Anyway, that's a two-wolf theory and should be taken with a pinch of salt as long as we are still searching for confirmed one-wolf theories. But I also think Thestick could use some attention regardless of Lewwyn's alignment.

Beyond that, I don't have much. Unless something changes dramatically, I think we should lynch Coco next. Though I'm also willing to discuss other suspects, as always. There might be a case for lynching a more active player, for information, but if two more players die now we should already have a lot of new information to digest.

BTW, Lewwyn: I believe you actually played with Coco before, in that humongous mafia game on totalwar. Do you remember him from that game?

Yeah, this game was a bit meh to me, from the start it was a one guys game, I dont get why everyone told him everything about their characters. And when he showed everyone he was immune to being lynched, the game died to me. But I guess it was more interesting from your side.

[uberfish]

DeAdline was 22 minutes ago

What do we say to the god of death? You have to wait for the gm to get back to a computer

[Lewwyn]

Awesome Awesome Awesomesauce. I knew something was up with novice but I didn't think he was scum.

[Lewwyn]

Uh oh I think just time travelled.

[Mardoc]

And here I'd been thinking night 1 was a fluke. Still, at least these are somewhat better results.

Going to start with following zak back onto Coco, I think. Serdoa's case, while brilliantly executed, did have the primary effect of saving Coco.

[Lewwyn]

Now that you know Serdoa is guilty. Just read this:

I'm kinda torn right now. I can see Lewwyns argument against Rowain and I agree with him. Rowain is much more relaxed it seems. On the other hand, I have made that argument some games ago already. I can't remember if Rowain was scum there but I think he was not. So he really might just take the game lighter.

On the other hand we have zaks argument against Lewwyn. I can see what he means, but tbh, what really makes me wary is the tone of Lewwyns posts. I'm not used to a Lewwyn that shows signs of self-criticism. And especially his post which declared basically everyone scum, just to show us that he is really lost, doesn't sound right to me. It sounds more like "Uh, I really can't get into a villager mindset, so lets just play the 'I'm lost'-card." And I don't expect that behaviour from him at all.

So, despite that I agree with him in regards to Rowain (which might actually just show that we indeed have 2 wolf-parties) I will vote for him.

Lewwyn

I mean have you ever heard more waffling to not vote for Rowain and also vote for me?

[pindicator]

Well, I'm a combination of thrilled and pissed. Thrilled because we got a dead traitor out of this but pissed because there's only my word to say I was on to him! Damn, I was going to wait to lynch coco and if he went traitor then pitch the Serdoa - Coco connection. No reason why I can't argue it the other way around!

Anyway, I will bet my lordship that coco is a traitor. Look at Serdoa's posts yesterday: at first he is on Mattimeo. Then later when he sees he isn't getting any traction on Matt and it gets to be Coco and Lewwyn as the top two he was pushing hard on Lewwyn and Mattimeo both, but never even mentioned Coco until the very end when Coco looked to be an inevitable top candidate. I think he was trying to direct the loyals away from Coco and onto other targets - Lewwyn & Mattimeo. He was mentioning Coco as little as possible, trying to get other people in the limelight to save his traitor friend. And it worked. Let's not let it work again.

Lewwyn-
I'm willing to try other targets today for info. But coco needs to go.