WW17 - A Game of Thrones

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No agree on cases for zak/rowain independently, just cautious of if x then y arguments.

[Rowain]

wolf lean
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That's some quality Rowaining.

Soon I'll be a scum-faction on my own with multiple votes several nightkills and you need to kill 3 times over

[Lewwyn]

It is a complete waste to sit on Coco and wait for a response instead of actively scumhunting other people.

That's not what I have been doing, though. I exploded at Jkaen because I was spending all my available time yesterday rereading and compiling thoughts. He kept interrupting those efforts by pestering me with misguided criticism (misguided because I'm innocent) and calling me lazy.

The fact is, I was pretty much the only one to post anything of substance yesterday, while everybody else was just piling on to Coco and holding their breath.

Look at my posts last night and you see my perspective after I have done a full reread. TT and Rowain are likely scum, and Coco is a less interesting target to pursue today. He was a GOOD lynch yesterday, because he actually did post yesterday. Again, I am capable of changing my mind in the light of new developments.

TT moved his vote to Coco yesterday, but didn't comment on Rowain. Rowain then goes no lynch today, rather than going after TT. Rowain made that childish self-vote just as I was heading to bed so I didn't bother commenting on it. He's been known to do that both as town and scum so it's a null tell for me. I think he is scum, but not based on that.

I'm not saying you are sitting on Coco. I'm saying the "village" has been. And I'm saying you're the one that set that in motion and suggested it.


Here's my problem Zak. You and Rowain are now both willing to vote for each other. Suddenly You're number 2 on Rowain's list and he's number 2 on your list. This means that you split votes and cause more confusion among the villagers. Villagers are forced to make a difficult decision and they split the vote or go to an "Easy lynch" TT or Coco. As a result the village continues to allow the wolves to feed on the weak links.

You keep saying, "Oh but I made contributions outside the Coco and Mattimeo", but the problem is that you eventually went right back into voting for both of them as well. Facilitating the easy lynches. The village is weak right now IMO and it will be a miracle if either you or Rowain are lynched.

And I get that you went to bed around the time Rowain self-voted. But then what... you wake up and forget to ask him or push him on his self vote? You forget to try and get some reaction out of him from his self-vote? Village Zak? ANd then you just accept and hop on the TT train.

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Lewwyn could yot please explain yourself? I know i suck at this but you making seemingly random comments/criticisms neither helps the lynching nor aids my play.

[zakalwe]

I don't see how I'm "rationalizing everything". I'm reading your posts. They are scummy.

Well stop trying to "tone read" then, because you're doing it wrong, and listen to the logic of what I'm saying. If you believe so strongly that either Rowain or I, or both, are scum, then how is TT not scum? Why that frantic last-minute voting by 2-3 scum? That's quite different from Gaspar standing by to drop a fake Thestick vote last game, right after the deadline.

[Lewwyn]

I don't see how I'm "rationalizing everything". I'm reading your posts. They are scummy.

Well stop trying to "tone read" then, because you're doing it wrong, and listen to the logic of what I'm saying. If you believe so strongly that either Rowain or I, or both, are scum, then how is TT not scum? Why that frantic last-minute voting by 2-3 scum? That's quite different from Gaspar standing by to drop a fake Thestick vote last game, right after the deadline.

So who is rationalizing now?

[Rowain]

Hey Lewwyn didn't you see? I made a joke and used a smile up there won't you jump on that and build it in your theory?

[Jkaen]

Hey Lewwyn didn't you see? I made a joke and used a smile up there won't you jump on that and build it in your theory?

Very helpful Rowain

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Uhh i really need to sleep. Lewwyn, pldase explaio yovr rebsoning by morning

[zakalwe]

And I get that you went to bed around the time Rowain self-voted. But then what... you wake up and forget to ask him or push him on his self vote? You forget to try and get some reaction out of him from his self-vote? Village Zak? ANd then you just accept and hop on the TT train.

Like I said, I think the self-vote is a null read and it's not worth pushing him about that. It would just be feeding the troll. I did question his No Lynch vote, though, as that's a new one. And a No Lynch is clearly a terrible idea at this point.

That I "hopped on the TT train" is misleading, as I've been stating all along that I'm equally willing to lynch both of them. I think Pindicator is innocent, so it was better to put two innocent votes on TT than just my own vote on Rowain. (The self-vote really doesn't count, there.) But I'll say it again (for the fourth time, perhaps), I am willing to lynch both of them.

@Crosspost. How is that rationalizing? I'm voting TT based on a logical argument, despite the fact that I've been reading him as innocent earlier, just based on "tone". You are using your "tone" read as your basis and making up reasons to disregard the logical argument in front of you.