November 9th, 2012, 06:31
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(November 9th, 2012, 06:23)zakalwe Wrote: What's the geography again? Menagerie is winning the war on Pirates, but who borders Gillette, and who borders TEAM?
Menagerie border Gillette.
Which is convenient ... can we get some sort of arrangement with them where we both show up with all our Axes on Gillette's borders to give them a fright?
I guess my overall feeling on this is I'm in favour of trying to jolt Gillette out of their nice little farmer's gambit, but I'd like us to do it with the minimum amount of further investment - if we "take one for the team" then it's TEAM that benefits in the long run, not us.
November 11th, 2012, 23:18
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(November 9th, 2012, 06:31)pling Wrote: I guess my overall feeling on this is I'm in favour of trying to jolt Gillette out of their nice little farmer's gambit, but I'd like us to do it with the minimum amount of further investment - if we "take one for the team" then it's TEAM that benefits in the long run, not us.
I agree it would be a good idea to discuss with M3 a bit and not invest to military more than we already have. I don't think we should suggest any kind of common military campaign to M3. However building up some trust and finding out their deal situation with Gillette would be good idea.
btw. Gillette has been pretty passive lately. Scooter seems to be just logging in and playing the turns fast.
November 16th, 2012, 05:39
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Decided to send a little message to M3.
Quote:Congratulations from your succesful war. Now that we've both got rid of warring, maybe it would be a time to open up a dialogue bwtween our nations. Potentially we could find some mutually beneficial deals we could sign and do a little info exchange. I can also chat.
November 19th, 2012, 14:35
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Response from M3:
Quote:Congratulations yourselves! We would welcome dialogue between our
nations. What sort of deals or information exchange did you have in
mind?
Our NAP with Gillette is ending in 8T. Maybe we should try to open dialogue towards them also.
November 20th, 2012, 00:37
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Clearly we go to war. Again.
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November 20th, 2012, 01:21
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(November 20th, 2012, 00:37)spellman Wrote: Clearly we go to war. Again.
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I'm so helpful in this game.
Might be. Any suggestions how should we proceed? Maybe contacting Gillette would be in order to get a feeling what they're up to. I think we need to offer NAP continuation to really get an idea what is going on. What about offering NAP until T110?
November 20th, 2012, 03:10
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We could send Gillette something like this, just to see what they say? Rather than make any specific offers of our own, I mean.
draft Wrote:Greetings shaven ones,
Haven't heard from you in a while, how goes the world in your corner? Over in our corner we've managed to successfully see off the aggression from TEAM, sadly by diverting from our planned farmers gambit 
T70 is rapidly approaching, what are your thoughts on a NAP extension?
Menagerie, I don't really have any ideas for
November 20th, 2012, 03:15
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I sent M3 this
Quote:Well all the classics are in the table ;-). At first we could e.g. sign a NAP, share some info and a bit later possible share some resources. Concerning info sharing I can tell you that our peace deal with TEAM wasn't as great as it may seem from outside viewer. We're paying for it via a settler and workers.
I'll send also suggested message to Gillette. I don't see any harm doing it.
November 20th, 2012, 03:18
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Sent a slightly edited version:
Quote:Haven't heard from you in a while, how goes the world in your corner? Over in our corner we've managed to successfully see off the aggression from TEAM, sadly by diverting from our planned farmers gambit and getting peace turned out a bit more expensive than we would have liked.
T70 is rapidly approaching, what are your thoughts on a NAP extension and more detailed border agreement?
November 20th, 2012, 08:03
(This post was last modified: November 20th, 2012, 08:03 by plako.)
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Chat with Old Harry (from Gillette). Please let me know, if you think I'm being too nice and give out too much info or that NAP is bad idea. If we go for NAP. How long you would suggest?
They're hinting about potential problems with M3. Not sure how seriously to take them before discussing with M3 ourselves.
Quote:rboldharry: Hi Plako, just thought I'd let you know Gillette got your email.
me: hi - thx
rboldharry: We'll have another think about how we want things to line up over your side, but I don't think we've got a big plan yet...
Mostly we've just been trying to meet everyone
me: That is alright. T70 is just coming so better check, if you want to discuss what happens after that
rboldharry: Well I'd like to extend the NAP, I'll have a chat with the others and see what they think. Have you got a preferenct?
me: Maybe do some info exchange too
rboldharry: preference*
me: We need a team consensus too, but something similar length we had last time could work
rboldharry: Sounds good. What sort of info are you after? We know a bit about the Troll-Pirate war and I guess we'd like to know how you did with TEAM - I think we had you down for taking a TEAM city, but I could be misremembering...
me: We got a city from TEAM in exchange of settler and workers. It was pretty even deal to get rid of the situation that was lose-lose to both of us.
Haven't checked foreign advisor lately - You still war against them?
rboldharry: I offered peace last turn, but we'll see what Lewwyn does...
me: ok. So it seems Pirates lost a city. You know anything about their peace deal?
rboldharry: Pirates settled near the gold that M3 were after, and M3 sent a bunch of Axes to take it... After they took it they agreed peace - I don't know about conditions attached though.
M3 have got an axe sniffing around us at the moment so we're getting horses hooked up very soon!
me: ok - seemed a lot like Pirates got beaten quite badly. Might have been just white peace
rboldharry: Yeah, I don't think Pirates are in good shape now...
I liked TEAM's angry roleplay, but it's not doing them any favours...
How's your copper city doing BTW, and have you got close to settling the gold site between us?
me: Copper is hooked up alright and gold will be settled soon. Any plans to settle towards us?
rboldharry: Right now we're going for horses, then we want to fill the gap over to the gold. The land isn't great over there though Ideally we want a nice peaceful border with you because of M3's axes. It would be good not to be competing
on your border
me: Sure
Might be an idea to visit the border deal also now that we've better map knowledge.
But original one is good starting point I think
rboldharry: Yeah, I'll talk to the others and see what they think - did the original one say no BFC beyond the vertical line to the west of the gold for either of us or was it more general?
me: It stated border line yes. Might have been the gold line, but can't remember exactly
rboldharry: Okay, I'll go have a look and get back to you about that and the NAP.
Back to work...
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