WW17 - A Game of Thrones

[Lewwyn]

That claim makes perfect sense to me, Lewwyn. I'll be surprised if anyone doubts your story.

A break was nice, and I've been using it to reread and rethink. In short, I have talked myself out of voting for Mardoc, even if I had a somewhat harder time talking myself into voting for someone else. Bottom line, I'm going to go with Sareln. I'll try to post my reasoning ASAP, but for now just a vote.

Okay. I'll be interested to hear why Sareln. I'll admit that I think it could go the other way if Sareln was actually scum trying to flush out Rowain's killer. In that case I would look at Sareln instead of Jkaen. But My initial read is that Sareln's likely mislynch material. Remember He also moved in on TT. Although I guess if you think that the wolves believed TT to be a lost cause and that Sareln was then bussing TT so that he could say this:

Looking at day 1 and remembering Rowain's abortive attempt to move from Twinkletoes89 -> Bigger looks really really scummy in hindsight.

I had forgotten that Qgqqqq didn't vote on day 1.

The only day TT's vote counted is the day he tried to save himself.

Tasunke started the TT wagon, and saw it through to quiet completion, so I'm ready to write Tas a pretty blank check right now even though he's being rather quiet for his baseline. Zak made the case, Tasunke placed the first vote. I suppose we could be looking at a bus, but to what end? With multiple killers in game, bussing early and hard doesn't feel as strong IMO.

My favored lynch for tomorrow is Rowain.

Than I could see that. I could see the wolves trying to A) gain cover with TT and the B) use it to set up a mislynch chain, IE: Rowain>Lewwyn based on the idea that I was pushing Rowain so hard... And when I flip then Zak becomes mislynchable too...

[Lewwyn]

Also, there is the fact that TT kind of went down a bit easily, anyway. You're questioning why the scum didn't move to lynch me, if they were on Coco. But likewise; if the scum were on me, why didn't they move to lynch Coco?

I think the answer may be right in front of us, here. The other scum were on TT.

Crossposted with this, but yeah this makes sense to me given that I felt like TT was innocent because of how easily everyone seemed to be going with Coco and TT.

[Lewwyn]

If thats true than do we think Azza is scum as well? There are only 5 people on TT. You, pindi, Sareln, Azza, Tasunke... Ah Tasunke. So you think possibly Sareln and Tas. I could see that. I still am not getting the Azza scum vibes, but maybe I'm wrong there too.

Sareln

[Qgqqqqq]

Oh wow...
no vote
My problem with the claim is that there was no second kill last night, nor a third previously, which supports the idea that you as scum have been killing suspects of yours previously, so as to allow this claim. OTOH, though youve been pressured it hasnt happened on a day your suspect has died.
However im going to err on the side of caution.

Your JKaen push (im ignoring your bit on me, as theres nothing there thats new/i can respond to) i disagree with, though. It

[zakalwe]

Now I want to comment on Sareln and Jkaen. You may all remember that Sareln made this big post about a second killer still out there and still alive. Everyone thought it was tinfoil. But it wasn't. It was completely true. My interpretation though was that it was a lucky guess. Why would a traitor who knew that there was someone else killing even mention that as a possibility? It simply draws attention to yourself and maybe tells the other killer who you are. And once there is another killer killed or 2 kills in one night, everyone is going to come back to you and say, "How did you know?" So I simply couldn't see Sareln as scum, basically outing himself. No, I believe that Sareln must be a villager who was thinking out loud and happened to stumble upon a hidden truth.

Take out the WIFOM, and this becomes more of an argument for Sareln's guilt, rather than his innocence. As a traitor, it must be frustrating to see the town focus exclusively on hunting for traitors, when you know that there is still another killer out there.

I'm not saying this is a strong scum tell, but I wouldn't use it as a town tell, either.

[zakalwe]

If thats true than do we think Azza is scum as well? There are only 5 people on TT. You, pindi, Sareln, Azza, Tasunke... Ah Tasunke. So you think possibly Sareln and Tas. I could see that. I still am not getting the Azza scum vibes, but maybe I'm wrong there too.

Cross-posting a bit here. I considered Azza too, though I eventually landed on Sareln as more likely scum. Lynching Tasunke would be more of a last resort, for me. His read on TT has been spot on ever since early day 1, and he's been pushing him regularly. I think we could also dig up some dirt being thrown by Serdoa and TT on Tasunke, IIRC, so I'm still thinking he is innocent. (Then again; who knows how he'd play as scum. Maybe he'd make a good vig kill. )

[Qgqqqqq]

just seems to rest on to many assumptions + a string of posts that could result from this, as opposed to his actual play + tells.


In the absence of the Lewwyn push, im willing to follow zaks lead on mardoc

[Lewwyn]

If thats true than do we think Azza is scum as well? There are only 5 people on TT. You, pindi, Sareln, Azza, Tasunke... Ah Tasunke. So you think possibly Sareln and Tas. I could see that. I still am not getting the Azza scum vibes, but maybe I'm wrong there too.

Cross-posting a bit here. I considered Azza too, though I eventually landed on Sareln as more likely scum. Lynching Tasunke would be more of a last resort, for me. His read on TT has been spot on ever since early day 1, and he's been pushing him regularly. I think we could also dig up some dirt being thrown by Serdoa and TT on Tasunke, IIRC, so I'm still thinking he is innocent. (Then again; who knows how he'd play as scum. Maybe he'd make a good vig kill. )

Sounds good to me.

[Qgqqqqq]

uhh i hate crossposts :headbang:

[Qgqqqqq]

is it ?