WW17 - A Game of Thrones

[Qgqqqqq]

Oh im not saying lynch him, i have no real read, but i have no idea what you mean as i havent read them, so afaict he was just throwing darts.

ill assume that mardocs name helps his case, but in general ill disregard names

[Jkaen]

Now I want to comment on Sareln and Jkaen. You may all remember that Sareln made this big post about a second killer still out there and still alive. Everyone thought it was tinfoil. But it wasn't. It was completely true. My interpretation though was that it was a lucky guess. Why would a traitor who knew that there was someone else killing even mention that as a possibility? It simply draws attention to yourself and maybe tells the other killer who you are. And once there is another killer killed or 2 kills in one night, everyone is going to come back to you and say, "How did you know?" So I simply couldn't see Sareln as scum, basically outing himself. No, I believe that Sareln must be a villager who was thinking out loud and happened to stumble upon a hidden truth.

So Jkaen is voting for Sareln. However this is before Sareln makes this comment. As soon as Sareln does though, Jkaen gets on record with, "Now I really think you're scum." That reaction to me is super scummy, because I know that Sareln is right. If Jkaen is scum he knows it too. EIther he thinks maybe Sareln is the SK apprentice or the vig, either way a good person to either get rid of or gain credit on. Additionally Jkaen hopped on Sareln early in the day. Was he looking for mislynch material? So there you go Jkaen. It's not some mid game coincidence. It's based on knowledge of whats going on. And now everyone knows. Maybe I'm still wrong about Jkaen given that I've been wrong about everyone else, but at least you know my full reasoning on him.

Lewwyn that is full of holes. Zak also thought the theory was crazy, how to you refer to that with your theory? Isn't it just far more likely I saw the idea as very unlikely?

Sareln also talked about master and apprentice, not switching night killers which is what you are claiming.

Oh and also there are these two posts:

Caught up to post 150 here now, the pressure on Mattimeo seems a bit odd, couldnt really work out the source of all that.

Tansuke however I started to feel was acting just a bit too wierd and odd

Very interesting a wolf got night killed. If we assume the wolves (regicides/plotters/whatever) killed Novice (which makes sense) it does raise the question of who got Serdoa (and I guess Brick last night?)

That come after Day 2 and Night 2. I understand that you are busy and coming back and after this point you seem much much more involved, but I felt like this was a really careful reentry into the game after being away and it just felt weird.

Not really I had alot of posts to catch up with and responded to key points in batches until I caught up

Onto Qgqqqqq. On Day 3 TT buddied up to me. He called me chief scum hunter. That felt good. I'm not immune to flattery. Qgqqqqq followed me and Jkaen onto Zak after I pushed him a bit. Qgqqqq didn't vote Day 1, he voted for Coco Day 2 and Day 3 was flipping about on Azza, who I think is A) innocent and B) possible mislynch material considering thats what I viewed him as when I was a wolf. Really think Qgqqqq was looking for somewhere safe to place his vote. He hasn't been a part of a majority on a lynch yet. If I'm a wolf that's what I want.

I have no issue with suspecting Qgq, however please note that this means that if I am scum too then we doubled up and really pushed hard on zak, but then just happily gave up the push with no real fight

[Jkaen]

Also, there is the fact that TT kind of went down a bit easily, anyway. You're questioning why the scum didn't move to lynch me, if they were on Coco. But likewise; if the scum were on me, why didn't they move to lynch Coco?

I think the answer may be right in front of us, here. The other scum were on TT.

Sorry when you say other scum do you mean dual factions or the TT was bussed?

[Lewwyn]

He's saying TT was bussed.

Jkaen the master and apprentice thing doesn't make any sense. I was referring to the idea that Sareln thought there was someone else who was part of another faction killing in order to fit the meta that Uber said this would be a fast game.

Off to dinner.

[Jkaen]

Without giving spoilers away Janos does make sense as a traitor

Well I gave up the Sareln vote earlier because it didnt seem to have any interest. That seems to have changed now, and Lewwyn's claim lessens my suspicion on him a bit.

Hence Sareln

[Azza]

wtf Azza! i nonvoted once (by freaking mistake) when it counted! The rest dont matter! it doesnt matter come lynch time if you spent all day on BCW only to lynch wb.

You want me to f**king vote? Sure! maybe someone whose always lurking in the background, being an assh- *sorry* trying not to attract attention, while never lurking to much to stick out. Someone like, oh i dont know, its on the tip of my tongue - azza

Well, that's a start, at least you're no longer acting in the best interests of the scum by simply not voting.

I still think you're scum though.

[zakalwe]

Sorry when you say other scum do you mean dual factions or the TT was bussed?

Yeah, I was mainly thinking bussed. One team of traitors + a SK + a vig seems like it's enough to account for all kills.

Azza - got any thoughts on the other players? For the record, I didn't think your last "big" post that you've been drawing some heat for was particularly suspicious. I would like to see more like that, though.

[uberfish]

Sareln (4) - Lewwyn Jkaen Pindicator Zakalwe
Mardoc (2) - Sareln Tasunke
Qgqqqq (1) - Azza
Azza (1) - Q
Lewwyn (1) - Mardoc

Not voting (and in danger of being mod killed) - Coco


(votecount fixed)

[zakalwe]

Lewwyn is on Sareln.

[Tasunke]

why are people voting Sareln? I must have missed something during second half of thanksgiving day >.>