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WW17 - A Game of Thrones

No, that was it. If you don't have time, at this point it's okay - but please do try to get thoughts out before the deadline on the chance that you aren't scum. Although I see you did start to do that with your post earlier today, so kudos for that.

How about this: do you still suspect Tasunke even though he was the one that was on Twinkletoes Day 1 and stayed on him through his lynch day 3? And if so, why?
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(November 25th, 2012, 16:32)Mardoc Wrote: ...

I do have one comment already:

(November 25th, 2012, 12:39)Tasunke Wrote: I would suggest to Lewwyn that he not use his Vig shot tonight. For one thing, it would give evidence that he is not a second serial killer. IE: assuming 1 wolf pack and 2 alternating serial killers, Lewwyn could be a second serial killer. I think its equally likely that we have 1 alternating serial killer/ 1 alternating vig, and 2 alternating serial killers ... but I think if Lewwyn chooses not to kill tonight, we can probably see him as a vigilante.

At this stage it will probably be more helpful for the village for there to be only 1 kill tonight (assuming we don't win today). So if Lewwyn can abstain from killing tonight, we will possibly have an additional day, or at least more voting power.

Lewwyn, if you don't kill someone suspicious tonight, you should probably be lynched. I don't see LyLo going well for this village if the suspicious aren't weeded out by then. Even if it does cost one mislynch to vig someone.

I see two scenarios: Lewwyn is legit, and a villager, in which case I trust his judgment over the rest of the village's. In this case, he's already collected a good bit of suspicion, and needs to prove himself, plus has a good chance of finishing the game with a correct guess.
- Or -
Lewwyn is scum, fabricated his claim, and can't prove himself. In which case he's a good lynch.

Maybe Tasunke would be a good target, seeing as he doesn't want you proved loyal.

This is exactly my point.
Sorry I haven't been able to poost much lately (I had two 3-hour exams today FYI) but I definitely dislike the lazy quality of this lynch.
Reminds me of WW15 where after Lewwyns death people spent the next day just saying "he hated you we must caryy on his legacy!"

I do not trust Lewwyn to hunt well on his own (largely cause he'll just shoot me lol ) and I think it is definitely better if we approach it democratically - just think of it as a second lynch.
Its also (as Mardoc said) a good way of testing Lewwyns authenticity.
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Can we please have a mass name and role claim after the lynch if Mardoc is village? I do not want to accidentally shoot a baner. It will also help me to make a decision about my vig shot. We're at the point where scum don't have a lot of time to go around killing power roles so its not like we're going to be giving away a ton of info.

Currently 7 alive
Lynch = 6
Vig shot = 5
Scum shot = 4
Next day lylo = 3

Scum shot = 2 - win

So a full role reveal will only allow for one chance for scum to kill someone important and it will help both me and the village narrow down suspects. And all of this is only important if Mardoc is village. Anyone disagree with my logic on this?
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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In some ways a full mass claim today would also be helpful in helping to determine if someone is more suspicious than Mardoc.
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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I have no great desire for a name claim but I dont have an issue with doing it as and when the rest of the village feel its worthwhile.

Actually, I guess there is no real reason to delay.

I am Tommen Baratheon. Vanilla Loyalist
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Yeah, I agree with this.

Partly because I keep having creeping worries about you, Lewwyn - if Mardoc ended up flipping town I was going to call for this myself. But I like that you're thinking the same thing.

Do we want to do the claiming in a particular order?
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I disagree.
Even at this stage in the game, power roles have (suprise suprise) power, and I don't think we are best served by outing them.
Besides, will opinions of innocence change?
Most PR's are pretty easy scum claims too.

I do however think any vig-shots would be better approached as secondary lynches.
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(November 26th, 2012, 01:20)pindicator Wrote: Yeah, I agree with this.

Partly because I keep having creeping worries about you, Lewwyn - if Mardoc ended up flipping town I was going to call for this myself. But I like that you're thinking the same thing.

Do we want to do the claiming in a particular order?

I do see your point here though.

I definitely have a niggling little worry that Lewwyn is stringing us along. (when I say niggling I mean...)
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Claims:

Azza
Tasunke
Lewwyn (aka Loki) - Benric Dondarrion, Vig
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Jkaen - Tommen Baratheon, Vanilla
Pindicator
Mardoc - Eddard stark, Doublevoter

As for order does it really matter?
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flower prince
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