November 21st, 2012, 10:57
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Ok, got ahold of Caledorn. Here's the answer I got:
chat with CFC/Caledorn Wrote:Caledorn: I am not 100% certain what our turn players has recommended, and if you want a 100% certain answer I have to ask. But based on the screenshots I believe the city will be either 6,6 or 6,3 from the Oasis
6,9 is a desert tile, so that would be silly
scooter: well settling on a desert isn't really silly since it auto converts to a 2/1/1 tile so it's actually kinda nice to redeem it
Caledorn: Oh.. blushes This is why I do diplomacy and not turnplaying...
I had no idea about that
scooter: haha it's ok. learn something new every day!
Included the comment on the desert thing just to reinforce that Caledorn very much is just their diplo guy and certainly not heavily involved in strategic decisions... Just something to keep in mind.
We then had this brief follow-up exchange:
chat with CFC/Caledorn Wrote:Caledorn: Let me see if I can find the dotmap someone made
Ugh. That did not help as the dotmap also proposes 3 as a possible location. I will ask. Hopefully one of the turnplayers will clarify before you leave, because this is not helpful at all
scooter: ok, yeah if you could just let us know that would be helpful.
without full knowledge of what the terrain looks like, i would say 6-6 and 6-3 would both sound nice from our perspective
I'll update if/when more comes in.
November 21st, 2012, 11:17
(This post was last modified: November 21st, 2012, 11:17 by scooter.)
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Ok, it seems they have yet to decide, but we have some wiggle room here to request them not to settle certain spots:
Caledorn/CFC Wrote:Caledorn: Gah. It seems the turnplayers are uncertain.
Okay, the spots I have been given as possible locations are, in no order of preference mind you, are: 9 9-9 9-6 and 6-3
Good thing I asked as only one of those are among my suggested spots
Whichever spot is decided, it will be our westernmost city in your direction. There is full consensus about this on the team.
If any of those locations are undesirable for you, please let us know. It is uncertain if we will settle a city there as our next settlement or if we will delay it a bit, so the sooner the better if there is objections.
November 22nd, 2012, 15:56
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Received from WPC:
Quote:Hello,
the offer you sent in game got cancelled by accident.
We sent the OB offer to you again in game.
BR,
Tatu
November 22nd, 2012, 19:34
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Received from GWT:
Quote:There are two promising rivers, next to your gold mine. The other one
is actually a branch of the same river. It originates 7-7-7 of your
gold mine.
In any case, we found ocean east of you. If you go eight turns from
the gold mine to the east, you will find it.
We are fine with postponing a research arrangement. You can come back
to us when it becomes important to you.
Greetings
Flunky - German Webring Team
November 24th, 2012, 17:22
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Received from WePlayCiv:
Quote:Greetings to team RB!
We would like to inform that we have declared war on the Incan nation.
I believe that this test of strength will benefit both of our nations.
Our war will lessen the threat that Incan nation possibly causes to you from north.
If you have anything to ask, or propose, don't hesitate to send me a message.
Best regards,
Tatu of team WPC
November 25th, 2012, 16:06
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Received from WePlayCiv:
Quote:Greetings to team Realms Beyond.
We are pleased about our Open Borders agreement.
Our citizens are happy that they can freely go and experience you country.
Those left home also are enjoying the numerous souvenirs that our travelers bring from far away lands.
In this mindset we desire for greater stability between our people.
We propose a Non Aggression Pact starting from the moment of signing the deal up to turn 100 for starters.
The Non Aggression Pact would end at the start of turn 100 unless we continue it before reaching that point.
Do you agree with these terms?
Looking forward to prosperous relationships between our nations.
Best regards,
Tatu
Foreign Minister of WPC
November 25th, 2012, 18:22
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Quote:Hi Scooter / RB,
Full open borders is OK with us. We have proposed open borders in game.
November 26th, 2012, 16:21
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Chatted with WPC in game (after they whacked the German city).
mh
November 27th, 2012, 00:36
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Ok, so kalin's suggestion seemed nice and simple, so I went with that:
RB to WPC Wrote:Tatu,
First, apologies for being a bit slow to respond - I was out of town for the week. It seems like things have been quite eventful while I'm gone - I certainly didn't expect two neighbors to break into war! I wish you good luck in your fight. Also, some serious congratulations to you on drawing first blood . I believe that's the first city conquest of the game so far which is a great accomplishment that your people can be proud of.
We are often hesitant to freely sign NAPs, but we do understand your desire for security while involved in another war. Therefore, we're happy to sign the NAP until T100. Hopefully that will give you some breathing room.
So does the German team seem caught unawares? What are your expectations from this war?
Thanks,
scooter - Team RB
Also sent the draft to the German team as-is without mention of the city raze. That can come up naturally in follow-up messages, the message to them was less important. Here it is:
RB to GWT Wrote:Flunky,
Thanks so much for the map info, that's helpful. Trade routes is definitely a priority for us in expansion, so hopefully we can settle those pretty soon.
We're very sorry to hear WPC declared war on you. Is everything ok? What kind of force are they sending? In any case, we wish you good luck. Hopefully you can take care of their attack quickly and be back on your feet.
Thanks,
scooter - Team RB
Also sent a quick thank you note back to CFC about their OB message:
RB Wrote:Caledorn/CFC,
Thanks! We have accepted the Open Borders.
scooter - Team RB
November 28th, 2012, 16:31
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Received from the Germans:
Quote:Greetings,
our wise men saw that coming, reading in the lines and the stars. So
we were not caught flat-footed, but the gods took their due anyway.
Hard times are coming and going and our terraces are built for
eternity. The high council found that we will emerge from this war
stronger and keener than ever.
But, off the record, some war chariots wouldn't hurt, to free
ressources from which the trade routes can be built.
I sincerely hope you do not maintain diplomatic relations with those
barbarians, as it would be a waste of paper and quill.
Best regards,
Flunky - German Webring Team
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