WW 18 Siege of the Dragon! (Game Thread)

[Qgqqqqq]

you can other interpret my vote all you like, and if we were 3/4 thru D3 maybe youd have a point, but an 1/8 of the way thru D1. yes i was rubbing my hands with glee and cackling how you could never stop me now...

As for the WB thing, its simply that selrahcs felt like a pop in pop out, while wb took the timeto think about it and doa google search - that and I was online, refreashed and saw the posts.

I think Bigger has resolved tochange his play (at least for D1) after `17

I'd like to hear from

[Qgqqqqq]

uber dislike the follow.

[zakalwe]

the votes could be interpreted that way

Sure, but I still think Mattimeo was quick to jump to that interpretation. He didn't ask people if those were their reasons, he just took it for granted. Trying to defuse something, perhaps, or maybe just eager to be a good boy.

[Rowain]

Impressive post Serdoa.

You do raise some valid points (especially on Qg) but for the moment I prefer to hear some more reasoning from Ichabod. To add I also don't like the slippery way he dodged pindis question.

[Lewwyn]

I like Serdoa's post though it does let Azza off the hook a bit too easily.

To summarize, Qgqqqqq appears imo suspicious for:

- stating he makes a useless early-game vote when it clearly isn't
- inquiring about wb's voting behaviour but completely ignoring the much more suspicious voting behaviour of Selrahc

I stated before that I found the bit about stating the early game vote as useless to be suspicious. But then again I was dead set against Qgq last game too because I thought his behavior was suspicious as hell and I was really wrong... But that didn't really stop me last game. Qgqqqqq

Oh and Serdoa, your part about me actually answers your own question. I wasn't retroactively explaining my vote. I was noting things I thought were suspicious that were fallout of said vote.

[novice]

So I think these votes require some elaboration:

I'll also blatantly sheep Zakalwe on Azza

Pindicator

Bigger
Azza

I agree with this:

Impressive post Serdoa.

You do raise some valid points (especially on Qg) but for the moment I prefer to hear some more reasoning from Ichabod. To add I also don't like the slippery way he dodged pindis question.

Or well, I didn't feel that his dodge was slipper as such - villager Ichabod often has his reasons for votes like this - but I'd still like to hear them. Lewwyn is mostly a null tell for now, so I'll move my vote to Ichabod too, seems like a better parking spot.

[novice]

I stated before that I found the bit about stating the early game vote as useless to be suspicious. But then again I was dead set against Qgq last game too because I thought his behavior was suspicious as hell and I was really wrong... But that didn't really stop me last game. Qgqqqqq

So what are you saying here, exactly? That you're voting against your own better judgement?

[Serdoa]

you can other interpret my vote all you like, and if we were 3/4 thru D3 maybe youd have a point, but an 1/8 of the way thru D1. yes i was rubbing my hands with glee and cackling how you could never stop me now...

As for the WB thing, its simply that selrahcs felt like a pop in pop out, while wb took the timeto think about it and doa google search - that and I was online, refreashed and saw the posts.

I think Bigger has resolved tochange his play (at least for D1) after `17

I'd like to hear from

I just want to make something clear here: I really dislike this behaviour Qgqqqqq. You have not in the least explained why you did call your vote useless despite it having an effect that should be notable (and you yourself state that you get obsessed with these games, so I expect you to not overlook it). Instead you just try to discount it as if we are exaggerating. We don't. If you'd have just voted without stating anything, I wouldn't look a second time on it. But you didn't. You felt it necessary to add that it is a useless vote. But then you tried to engage with Azza. If I give you the benefit of the doubt and believe you that you didn't realize that your vote wasn't useless then I have to assume that you only voted jokingly for Azza. In that case you engaging with him doesn't make sense.

Care to explain why you did vote for Azza and called it useless? And why you did engage with him afterwards? I mean, you stated your vote is for last game - the only one to give any reason for his vote on him at all and a bad one, considering it puts him up top. He replied to that with telling you that he wouldn't revenge vote you because all you do feels suspicious to him (so basically the same Lewwyn stated, but with actually acting upon what he said). And that is for you reason to hit on him... I don't get it. You don't have a reason to vote him but because he calls you on it (and you specifically because your vote puts him in front) he suddenly is a prime target for you? How does that work?

[Serdoa]

I like Serdoa's post though it does let Azza off the hook a bit too easily.

Just one thing here for those maybe misunderstanding me: I don't have a feel if Azza is villager or scum right now. But I don't see a reason to vote for him, while I do see reasons to vote for someone else. I'm not sure why that is considered letting Azza off the hook a bit too easy - and tbh I don't see that there ever was a hook to begin with.

[Lewwyn]

I stated before that I found the bit about stating the early game vote as useless to be suspicious. But then again I was dead set against Qgq last game too because I thought his behavior was suspicious as hell and I was really wrong... But that didn't really stop me last game. Qgqqqqq

So what are you saying here, exactly? That you're voting against your own better judgement?

I'm saying that even though I though my reads were objectively bad last game (in particular when it came to Rowain and Qg), I'm not going to let that stop me from voting for who I think is currently suspicious and trusting my reads now.