WW 18 Siege of the Dragon! (Game Thread)

[Mattimeo]

3. I don't think anybody explicitly said they were voting Azza because he fooled us last game, or Pindicator "just because". I don't like how you're putting words in people's mouth there.

Everything people do has a reason. If none is supplied, I'm going to attempt to justify what it might be. They were the most plausible I came up with, and neither was sufficient to sway me to jump on either of the wagons.

He first sated that he rolled a dice for his lynch vote. And then he stated that he is not married to his vote. That makes no sense. If you rolled a dice, you obviously are not married to your vote. Mattimeo let it sound like it would something necessary to point out when in reality it should be obvious. Why?

To attempt to disassociate myself from the awkward situation where the first remote suspicion I came up with fell on the person who'd been randomly picked as my initial vote, as I anticipated it would engender views like

1. I don't like how you randomly select someone to vote for, and then immediately find something non-random to confirm your vote. A bit too convenient.

And now I get the fun choice of sticking with my random vote 'cause negligible evidence to suspect alternate targets has surfaced (suspicious, because I'm holding with a vote that was initially completely random, but doubted as such), and switching (suspicious, because I'm caving in to pressure suspecting my random vote was suspicious, and my reasoning for whoever I vote for won't be all that solid due to my general lack of insight on Day 1).

Screw it, sticking on Qgqqqqq 'cause the case Serdoa is building looks interesting.

[slowcheetah]

As a useless early vote Azza for last game.

As much as your reasoning and timing grates me here, I'm not going to revenge vote this time. Mostly since almost everything you do looks suspicious to me.


I think this video captures my response with an appropriate degree of dignity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG-PCU3-Dfc

I guess I'd better cover my brows :P

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slowcheetah because Futurama.

Lynch vote on MJW because he was last to sign up.
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So you won't revenge vote but in six pages you haven't found any better reasons to vote for anyone? Granted there probably aren't many scumtells, but there is certainly better options for mayor.

[slowcheetah]

Serdoa

[waterbat]

I'm willing to vote Serdoa based on his excellent first post.

Also - I thought Qgqqqqq suspicious from hist first couple posts, but that isn't any different than other games. Azza falls into that category for me as well. There is still plenty of time for someone else to step up and insert paw in mouth.

Also the use of random.org to pick someone to vote for seems off - couldnt think of a reason to pile on, Mattimeo?

Quick flavor point:
Also - i dont understand from the story who the 'bad' people we are looking for are. I understand the dragon - but the wolves/scum/mafia/etc? for flavor, what should we call them?
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[Ichabod]

My Pindicator vote was based on the fact that I didn't like his Zakalwe vote for mayor. The "I can read him well" justification just don't cut to me, since then you should vote for yourself. Besides, I think it's better to vote for someone that hunts wolves well (zak is good at it, but that was not the reason Pindicator gave). And, as pretentious as it may sound, I thought Pindicator was going to vote for me as mayor (not only him, but he was one of the people I thought would vote for me), since I played good villager games last two games. Voting Zak is also a good way to get him out of your shoes, because Zak is, to me, a bit prone to let people slide in those types of situations.

So, I voted to see his reaction and it was better not to justify my vote. His reaction was interesting, I agree that it was defensive (he didn't ask for my reasoning, he attacked me/tried to put my vote in a bad light as following someone), also worth noticing that he didn't vote for me, despite that.

Ichabod

[uberfish]

uber dislike the follow.

1) you are voting me for following zak on azza when you yourself jumped on the bandwagon?

2) I voted azza back on page 2, you've made plenty of posts. If your reaction was "I don't like this vote" why didn't you bring it up before now? [/color]


Qgqqqq

Serdoa

For the record, I dislike all this vote-disclaiming "oh my vote is meaningless and random" and "oh I'm going to be a good villager and not revenge vote you". You can't all be scum but any villagers doing this should stop because it makes it easy for the scum to hide if people are playing in deliberately neutral fashion.

[uberfish]

since there was a crosspost:

I'm willing to vote Serdoa based on his excellent first post.

Also - I thought Qgqqqqq suspicious from hist first couple posts, but that isn't any different than other games.

Explain why are you voting him if you don't think he is suspicious. You seem to be contradicting yourself here as Serdoa's post was mainly directed at pointing out why Q *is* suspicious.

[Azza]

As a useless early vote Azza for last game.

As much as your reasoning and timing grates me here, I'm not going to revenge vote this time. Mostly since almost everything you do looks suspicious to me.


I think this video captures my response with an appropriate degree of dignity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG-PCU3-Dfc

I guess I'd better cover my brows :P

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slowcheetah because Futurama.

Lynch vote on MJW because he was last to sign up.

So you won't revenge vote but in six pages you haven't found any better reasons to vote for anyone? Granted there probably aren't many scumtells, but there is certainly better options for mayor.
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There was no one who particularly stood out in either category. So rather than stay silent and let the votes pile on me, I disputed the only argument against me, didn't want to vote for Qg to be lynched since I always read him as scum, and wasn't particularly in favour of any of the mayoral candidates at the time.

In light of new information since then however, I think Serdoa is quite convincing in his arguments, and Qgqqqq looks scummy to other people so I'm happy to go with that for now.

[zakalwe]

I'm willing to vote Serdoa based on his excellent first post.

Also - I thought Qgqqqqq suspicious from hist first couple posts, but that isn't any different than other games. Azza falls into that category for me as well. There is still plenty of time for someone else to step up and insert paw in mouth.

Also the use of random.org to pick someone to vote for seems off - couldnt think of a reason to pile on, Mattimeo?

Quick flavor point:
Also - i dont understand from the story who the 'bad' people we are looking for are. I understand the dragon - but the wolves/scum/mafia/etc? for flavor, what should we call them?
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That's the second time you ask "who are the scum, flavorwise?" Why this obsession with the flavor?

I'm not impressed with the rest of your post, either. Not exactly eager to bring up new suspects.

Waterbat

[zakalwe]

That was a crosspost with 87 and 88, by the way. Good question by Uberfish.