December 14th, 2012, 06:15
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(December 14th, 2012, 06:10)Mattimeo Wrote: You're making it out like I was significantly more attached to my Qgqqqq vote than I actually was. Though that seems a fairly common trait amongst those playing, so I don't know why I'm surprised...
You were angry and cursing while you said you were staying on Qg. At what point are we supposed to understand that you don't think your vote is where you want it?
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December 14th, 2012, 06:16
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(December 14th, 2012, 05:56)zakalwe Wrote: (Again, to everybody who thinks I'm in league with Q: why on earth would I get in Serdoa's face like that, and stay there? It was freaking day 1; how hard is it for me to get someone lynched, without facing off with Serdoa? Look to Ichabod for a much better example of how scum is likely to behave around Serdoa.)
Simple. Due to your reputation, you're likely going to get targetted at night. So to win, you have to keep Qg alive, therefore requiring you to defend him against Serdoa.
December 14th, 2012, 06:19
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(December 14th, 2012, 06:16)Azza Wrote: (December 14th, 2012, 05:56)zakalwe Wrote: (Again, to everybody who thinks I'm in league with Q: why on earth would I get in Serdoa's face like that, and stay there? It was freaking day 1; how hard is it for me to get someone lynched, without facing off with Serdoa? Look to Ichabod for a much better example of how scum is likely to behave around Serdoa.)
Simple. Due to your reputation, you're likely going to get targetted at night. So to win, you have to keep Qg alive, therefore requiring you to defend him against Serdoa.
I don't dispute that it would be important for me to keep Q alive, and I never did dispute that. I'm just saying that a much BETTER way to keep him alive would be to actually lead a lynch on someone else. Don't you see that?
If you know what I mean.
December 14th, 2012, 06:21
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(December 14th, 2012, 05:56)zakalwe Wrote: I think it's interesting that this argument was given zero weight by Mattimeo today. I did allude to it briefly:
(December 13th, 2012, 10:17)Mattimeo Wrote: Only revelation I can think of that actually affects the probability of scum is that it's looking likely scum are in pairs - which makes keeping your teammate alive significantly more important than usual.
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December 14th, 2012, 06:22
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(December 14th, 2012, 06:19)zakalwe Wrote: I don't dispute that it would be important for me to keep Q alive, and I never did dispute that. I'm just saying that a much BETTER way to keep him alive would be to actually lead a lynch on someone else. Don't you see that?
But... you did that. Twice. Unsuccessfully.
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December 14th, 2012, 06:25
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(December 14th, 2012, 06:15)Lewwyn Wrote: (December 14th, 2012, 06:10)Mattimeo Wrote: You're making it out like I was significantly more attached to my Qgqqqq vote than I actually was. Though that seems a fairly common trait amongst those playing, so I don't know why I'm surprised...
You were angry and cursing while you said you were staying on Qg. At what point are we supposed to understand that you don't think your vote is where you want it? "Screw it" really doesn't come close to anger, or any real cursing. Much more an indicator of frustration (at the fact that, based on data from earlier in the day, whatever I did, people were going to find it suspicious, as I pointed out immediately before that line).
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December 14th, 2012, 06:32
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(December 14th, 2012, 06:19)zakalwe Wrote: (December 14th, 2012, 06:16)Azza Wrote: (December 14th, 2012, 05:56)zakalwe Wrote: (Again, to everybody who thinks I'm in league with Q: why on earth would I get in Serdoa's face like that, and stay there? It was freaking day 1; how hard is it for me to get someone lynched, without facing off with Serdoa? Look to Ichabod for a much better example of how scum is likely to behave around Serdoa.)
Simple. Due to your reputation, you're likely going to get targetted at night. So to win, you have to keep Qg alive, therefore requiring you to defend him against Serdoa.
I don't dispute that it would be important for me to keep Q alive, and I never did dispute that. I'm just saying that a much BETTER way to keep him alive would be to actually lead a lynch on someone else. Don't you see that?
From memory, you tried to get both myself and Mattimeo lynched, and you pushed waterbat when it came down to him and Qg.
December 14th, 2012, 06:45
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Just so people know, I've got a works party this evening. I'm not going to be active.
I feel fairly happy leaving my vote on Mattimeo in the interim though. His response to my last question was very cagey. I'll try to have another check later on this afternoon.
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(December 14th, 2012, 06:22)Lewwyn Wrote: (December 14th, 2012, 06:19)zakalwe Wrote: I don't dispute that it would be important for me to keep Q alive, and I never did dispute that. I'm just saying that a much BETTER way to keep him alive would be to actually lead a lynch on someone else. Don't you see that?
But... you did that. Twice. Unsuccessfully.
I pushed Mattimeo, had him reeling, and then voluntarily went off on a tangent facing off with a much tougher target (Serdoa). My later votes against Azza and Waterbat hardly count as leading lynches. Don't tell me you really think otherwise, because I don't buy that.
@Azza. I didn't push Waterbat. After I switched off you, I was briefly on Waterbat but then joined Slowcheetah on Mattimeo. I only switched back to Waterbat because he was the only viable target besides Q. I didn't push Waterbat at all, I just put my vote where I thought it was most likely to hit scum. But I had no strong feelings about Waterbat being scum, and never said I did. I expressed dismay that he wasn't defending, though.
And the reason I voted for you yesterday was because of your blatant lurking. That kind of play should get you lynched on day 1, and I honestly don't feel the least bit bad about that vote.
If you know what I mean.
December 14th, 2012, 06:57
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(December 14th, 2012, 05:37)Selrahc Wrote: (December 14th, 2012, 05:24)Mattimeo Wrote: One of those abilities the game rules forbid us from revealing that we have? I'm afraid I couldn't say.
Not vanilla villager, though.
I wasn't saying reveal your power. Just checking if you had one. Hum. Rules state:
Quote:-> revealing a passive ability is forbidden
I've been treating this as 'revealing [the existance of] a passive ability is forbidden'. How have you? 'revealing [the specifics of]'?
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